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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Cathe Olson -- Author of the Mothering articles "Wellness Model in Our Schools" and "Slow Food in Schools." Cathe is a wife and mother, as well as a writer and natural foods cook. She is the author of Simply Natural Baby Food and The Vegetarian Mother’s Cookbook. Cathe has had several articles published in Mothering as well as other magazines as well as local publications. Cathe is passionate about helping parents make healthy food choices for themselves and their families and serves as MotheringDotCommune's Nutrition and Good Eating Moderator. She is a frequent speaker at parenting classes, moms’ clubs, natural foods stores, libraries, and wellness centers.

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3/8/06

 16 mothers in attendance


Webmama_Tina: ok today we are so pleased to have cathe olson with us....here's the blurb for her chat again...
Webmama_Tina: Come chat with our beloved Cathe Olson, author of the Mothering articles Wellness Model in Our Schools" and "Slow Food in Schools." Cathe is a wife and mother, as well as a writer and natural foods cook. She is the author of Simply Natural Baby Food and The Vegetarian Mother’s Cookbook. Cathe has had several articles published in Mothering as well as other magazines as well as local publications. Cathe is passionate about helping parents make healthy food choices for themselves and their families and serves as MotheringDotCommune's Nutrition and Good Eating Moderator. She is a frequent speaker at parenting classes, moms’ clubs, natural foods stores, libraries, and wellness centers."
Webmama_Tina: cathe, why don't you introduce yourself and tell us a little about your background and expertise?
Webmama_Tina: then when you're ready for your first question, just let me know
Webmama_Tina: and angie is collecting names for the queue, so just throw out those question marks when you are ready to get in line
Webmama_Tina: and angie will tell you when to go. :)
TwinGirlsMama: ?
cathe: Hi Everybody - I am a SAHM/WAHM, homeschooler of two daughters 4 and 7. I write cookbooks and articles on was to get families to eat healthier and recently have written several articles to get healthier foods into schools.
cathe: For my expertise, I studied natural foods cooking and have cooked at natural foods restaurants and delis in California. Also studied nutriton and writing.
cathe: So questions?
MOD_Angie: upcoming chatter(s):  net  TwinGirlsMama
Webmama_Tina: ok net, you're up!
net: I am have gotten confused about solids now, i have always been under the impression to start solids at 6 months(my ds will be 6 months on the 21st) now i seen this site i think it was called stork  family the doc there said it don't matter what ........
net: age to start even at 3 month!!!!
cathe: Yikes! 3 months!
net: yes
net: and it was a bf site
cathe: There has been a lot of evidence and studies that have shown it is best to wait until at 6 months to reduce chances of allergies.
net: thats what i thought just need at bit of back up on it
cathe: You don't have to start right at 6 months either - it depends on your child. Do you know the signs of solid food readiness?
net: well he try to grab at our drinks and plates
net: but he also grabs at everything now, im reall in no hurry he eats less BM latly
cathe: Yes, that's one. Also he should be able to sit up and not have the tongue thrust reflex anymore - also he should be able to pick up small pieces of food with his hands.
cathe: Good to be in no hurry :)
earthmama369: ?
strgzrmn: am i in the wrong spot? i think im confused!
Webmama_Tina: you're in the right spot for hte mothering chat :)
Webmama_Tina: Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm  ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
Webmama_Tina: cathe, when you're done answering a question, just let us know by saying next question" or something like that"
cathe: sorry - next question.
TwinGirlsMama: I have 4-1/2 year old twin girls. We are vegan. They won't eat anything but grilled cheeze" sandwiches and mashed potatoes for dinner. If I make anything else they just push the plates away. Any suggestions on how to get them to eat? And eat better foods?"
TwinGirlsMama: P.S. I have Vegetarian Mother's Cookbook and love it!  Thanks for writing it!!!
cathe: Glad you liked the book :)
cathe: For your question, it would be good if you could add some veggies to the menu.
cathe: In the cookbook, I have a recipe for mashed carrots and potatoes - maybe your girls would go for that.
TwinGirlsMama: They are pretty good with some veggies, but corn and peas, which aren't the healthiest ones out there.  They used to be big broccoli fanatics, not anymore.
TwinGirlsMama: yum, that sounds good!
TwinGirlsMama: And the white and sweet potatoes, too.
cathe: Would they drink smoothies? Smoothies are a great way to sneak in some veggies and protein foods - like yogurt, kale, carrots. The creamy greens smoothie is a hit at all my workshops.
cathe: Another option that I've found good for kids is pureed soups - that way there's nothing to pick out.
TwinGirlsMama: Awesome ideas!  They love smoothies and soups!
TwinGirlsMama: Is the creamy greens recipe in the cookbook?  I don't see it here.
cathe: Oh tought of another one - how about mashing some white beans (navy or cannelli into the potatoes).
TwinGirlsMama: good idea...that'll get 'em some protein
cathe: It's the Creamy Greens Smoothie - page 372
CJ: ?
TwinGirlsMama: ah, there it is!  thanks so much!
Webmama_Tina: well both my mod helpers have children emergencies in their homes...so bear with me while i take over the queue and such... :)
cathe: Unless Twingirlsmama has more, I'm ready for next question.
TwinGirlsMama: So basically, hide as much as I can from them!!  :)
Webmama_Tina: i think earthmama was next
earthmama369: DD is 15 months old and I'm 26 weeks pregnant. We're mostly vegetarian, but I've been trying to learn about seafood -- what would your recommendation be for the healthiest (and safest!!) seafoods for us to eat at this point?
earthmama369: My main concern is dd getting enough healthy fats and me getting enough protein, which I'm having trouble doing. (Hence, probably, the weird seafood cravings).
Webmama_Tina: upcoming chatters:  CJ
earthmama369: The whole mercury/toxins thing just freaks me out, you know?
cathe: Wild salmon is a good one and high in omega-3 fatty acids which are very important at this time - small fish like sardine and herrings are good too if you like them.
earthmama369: I can find those locally -- are they hard to prepare? *lol* (Can you tell I don't cook very much?)
cathe: The ones to stay away from are shark, tilefish, swordfish, albacore tuna, king mackeral.
cathe: I would also stay away from farmed salmon. There are some kinds of fish that are farmed organically - those are okay.
earthmama369: ok, cool
cathe: But for any seafood while pg - I wouldn't eat more than twice a week.
cathe: Some veggie sources of healthy fat are - organic eggs, nuts and seeds (walnuts, flax, hemp, pumpkin have most omega-3's), beans and legumes, avocado, olive oil.
earthmama369: I don't think I could afford it more than that anyway!  ;)
earthmama369: Groovy. Those are all foods we both like. It's hard when people are telling me I need to give dd meat/seafood to have enough healthy fats in her diet. But those all (nuts, flax, etc.) make complete sense when I think about it. Thank you!!
cathe: Also, if you eat dairy - go for organic, full fat - yogurt is a great food.
cathe: Your welcome.
cathe: next question :)
CJ: Love your cookbook. My 5 yr old doesn't like food mushed up, whirled up (soup, etc.). She isn't getting enough protein. Ideas? I don't really cook or like to deal with meat. She eats eggs occasionally, likes cheese.
cathe: Does she like to dip?
cathe: My girls love hardboiled eggs dipped in a ketchup/mayo mixture, apple slices or carrot sticks dipped on almond butter, pita and hummus.
CJ: a little. carrots w/ranch. nothing fancy though. She will eat hummous. She is getting pickier for some reason.
cathe: For dinners - in my baby food book there is a recipe for tofu fish sticks and tarter sauce. How about just plain beans - my girls love baked beans. Also burritos.
CJ: She used to devour plain black beans, has given that up too. I don't want to pressure her. She will eat loads of fruit but I worry about all the sugar...
cathe: We also eat tofu stirfries, pasta with toasted nuts, quiche.
cathe: In my Veg Mother's Cookbook, there is a recipe for bean/nut loaf and veggie burgers too.
cathe: You are right not to pressure - that will send the wrong message but you are also right about too much fruit being too much sugar.
CJ: I'll try the tofu fish sticks. I am struggling because she is skeptical when things are mixed together. Is this common?
cathe: It is not uncommon - I think a lot of it is children wanting more control over their meals as they struggle to become independent.
CJ: What about making the pasta and letting her put on the nuts herself? Or do you always mix it up yourself? Will your kids eat most everything you serve?
cathe: What I do a lot with my girls is explain the nutrients they need. I tell them they need protein so they can grow taller. Then I give them a choice - for example for breakfast if they don't want eggs, they can have yogurt, cottage cheese, toast with almond butter, etc.
CJ: Good idea. I try to give choices but her diet seems so limited. Should I worry?
cathe: I think that's a great idea about letting your dd put on the nuts herself. Also, you might have her help shop and plan the meal or help cook it.
SaraS: I'm just joining the chat, so I apologize if you already covered this. At what age do you think kids can eat nuts and nut butters? My DD turned 1 this weekend. I hear everything from 1-3 years old. What are your thoughts?
cathe: Sorry - I always seem to be a question behind. I think you are right to keep off the pressure however, you do want to make sure your dd is getting the protein, fat, etc. that she needs. She should have some kind of protein food at every meal - even if she just eats a couple of bites.
Webmama_Tina: since we didn't have any other questions in queue, we can take sara's question next. :)
CJ: How do I make" her have bites? I don't want the dynamic of pressure..."
Webmama_Tina: after CJ's, of course
Webmama_Tina: ;)
cathe: It is tricky, you are right. Have you tried talking with her about why you want her to eat those types of food. I make it fun with my girls. For example, my 7 year old is losing teeth so we talk about how calcium food will make her new grown up teeth grow in big and strong and push out those old baby teeth quicker. Then she wants to eat a food with calcium. For my four year old, she sometimes rebels against beans but I tell her how protein will make her grow taller and her hair grow longer and she starts shoveling them in.
cathe: THen we joke and I say, you just grew an inch. Soon your going to pop out of the roof. Stuff like that.
CJ: I love these ideas! I haven't tried that enough. I think it will make sense to her. What do you do when your 4 year old rebels?
cathe: I also ask that the girls try a new dish before deciding they don't like it. After they taste a bite, if they don't like it they don't have to eat anymore. They are willing to do that and usually end up liking it.
CJ: Thank you...I don't want to ask too many questions if others have them. You are so helpful! I will try these things tonight.
cathe: For rebelling, if they don't want to eat what I cook (after one bite) they don't have to but I don't make a special meal for them (unless it is something I know they don't like like something spicy.)
cathe: Great questions CJ. You and anyone else are free to email me (see my web site) for future questions.
Webmama_Tina: SaraS is next
cathe: Okay - give me a sec to find her question again.
cathe: My thoughts on nuts:
cathe: If there are no allergies in family, nuts (except peanuts) can be started after 1 year. Almonds are a good one to start with because they are technically a fruit so not as allergenic. Peanuts can be started after 2 years. If there is a history of allergies - add 1 year to each of those.
cathe: A good way to serve nuts/seeds to little ones is to grind in a little coffee grinder or blender to powder and mix into oatmeal, rice cereal, etc. Nuts and seeds are a great source of minerals and essential fatty acids.
cathe: Also almond butter or tahini are a great (and high calcium) replacement for peanut butter.
cathe: Does that answer your question SaraS?
Webmama_Tina: 5min left...anyone else have any questions for cathe?
cathe: Wow! That went fast.
Webmama_Tina: sorry i've been back and forth...my mom wasn't able to come play with my 5yr old today so i've been distracted, lol
earthmama369: I have a random one. How do you pronounce your name?
downundermum: ?
CJ: ?
cathe: ha, ha - it's pronounced Cathy. It's jus that when I was growing up it was such a common name, I changed the spelling. My full name is Catherine.
earthmama369: :)
Webmama_Tina: ok 2 more questions....hopefully we can squeeze them in in the remaining 3min, lol
CJ: What sweets do your kids get?
cathe: Well - if you have my books, that's what they get. Sweets with whole grains, unrefined sweeteners, homemade ice cream, etc. but not everyday - fruit everyday though I'd say.
cathe: I don't forbid treats though - if we go out to eat or a party etc. they can have something
Webmama_Tina: downunder mom has a question too and then that will be it for today. :)
CJ: Thank you!
downundermum: cathe my 32mo old is still breastfeed and not eating much at all, what would you recommend to ensure he is getting a balanced diet?
cathe: Hm - well, I always recommend that each meal contain protein, complex carb, good fat, and vitamin food. For example, lentil/brown rice soup with veggies.
cathe: I would like to know more - what he likes to eat, why he's not eating - since we are running out of time, why don't you email me.
cathe: And anyone is welcome to email me for recipes I mentioned if you don't have my books - or questions that we didn't get to. My web site is www.simplynaturalbooks.com  and you can choose the contact cathe option.
downundermum: love too chat more
earthmama369: Thanks for the chat, Cathe!
TwinGirlsMama: Thanks so much, Cathe!
cathe: Thanks for coming everybody. This was fun.
downundermum: thanks cathe
Webmama_Tina: thank you so much!

 

 

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