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4th Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Peggy O'Mara --
Editor and Publisher of Mothering Magazine and www.Mothering.com .
Peggy's taking time out from her ever busy schedule to come say hello to the Mothering community! Come chat with her about pregnancy, birth, and family concerns, activism ideas, and other topics of Mothering interest.
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5/24/05

48 mamas in attendance!

12:21:08 Webmama_Tina today we have our wonderful peggy o'mara with us again!
12:21:24 Webmama_Tina i'm sure we all know peggy, but just in case there's someone that doesn't....peggy will you please introduce yourself? :)
12:21:44 Webmama_Tina and don't mind me as i post welcomes for newcomers.... :)
12:22:08 Webmama_Tina celtic_angel will be our queue-keeper today as soon as she breaks up a fight between her twins...lol
12:22:12 Peggy_O_Mara Thank you, Tina. It's great to be here. A little hot and bothered today. I went from cool weather a week ago to soooo hot. But the plants are blooming and I'm crazy watering everything.
12:22:21 Webmama_Tina so go ahead and throw out your question marks and i'll keep track for her til she gets back
12:22:25 skimonami3 ?
12:22:34 Peggy_O_Mara I'm the mother of four adult children and have been the editor and publisher of mothering for 25 years.
12:22:47 Peggy_O_Mara I'm eager to hear your questions and concerns.
12:23:13 maemery ?
12:23:28 heids70 ?
12:23:30 sweetpea ?
12:23:31 Webmama_Tina ok looks like skimonami3 is first
12:23:34 skimonami3 I have been threatened by my in-laws about not immunizing my daughter anymore,,,everyone thinks I am nuts...I am sure this is a common question,,,but how do i deal with this?
12:23:38 Peggy_O_Mara We've had our fabulous website, mothering.com since 1995 and it has really grown thanks to all of you.
12:23:58 skimonami3 I have done plenty of personal research on both sides,,,no one will listen to me
12:24:10 Webmama_Tina Upcoming chatters:  maemery  heids70  sweetpea
12:24:19 Webmama_Tina right now its  skimonami3
12:24:36 DODAD ....add to Peggy's inro...and one of the only sentient publishers in the universe I might ad...also my hero...you are saving us from ourselves Peggy...and we are so much better for it. THANKS!
12:24:48 Webmama_Tina lol
12:24:55 Webmama_Tina Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
12:24:59 Peggy_O_Mara That is a common question and a hard one. It seems to me that you have to keep these decisions as well as long-term nursing to yourself. It's really your business. Keep this very personal decision to yourself and find a support group of people who agree
12:25:09 laurawv ?
12:25:15 Webmama_Tina At this time, please keep all side conversations to private message (PM). To PM someone, please double click their name in the user list to the right (in purple). Clicking their name in the main window will only paste their name into the chat.
12:25:19 ikeessyou ?
12:25:38 ilovezoeystar ?
12:25:40 Peggy_O_Mara with you. Ask your in-laws to give you the opportunity to make decisions for your family and in time they will come to appreciate your concerns. Check out the forums on motheringdotcommune for support.
12:25:52 Webmama_Tina Upcoming chatters: maemery heids70 sweetpea  laurawv  ikeessyou  ilovezoeystar
12:25:57 skimonami3 the nursing too,,,the cosleeping,,,they won't leave me alone,,,thank-you peggy
12:26:07 Peggy_O_Mara Thanks for the love, DODAD
12:27:12 Peggy_O_Mara You have to establish your own authority as a parent right now. My own mother was very skeptical and challenging about my decisions. Even when I didn't tell her, she would figure out what I was going to do next   ---- like, oh my goddess --- homeschooling.
12:27:47 Peggy_O_Mara Now, 25 years later she stops young mothers in Walmart and recommends homeschooling to them. In the end, the critics will see the good results of your parenting but they have a right as relatives to be concerned.
12:28:24 skimonami3 I'm done....I have an allie in my chiropractor,,,and they seem to partially respect what she says,,yes,,I respect thier concern,,,but the threats if anything happens to her'   etc"
12:29:10 Peggy_O_Mara It's called keeping your own counsel. It's important that you keep your own counsel. Their threats are inappropriate. They do not have to right to do that or to intimidate you. Your children do not belong to them and only you and your family will live with the results of your decisions.
12:30:09 skimonami3 I am grateful to you,,,thanx peggy....
12:31:26 DODAD Hi TIna...sorry for my faux pas...I am an old (gray) Dad but a babe in the chat room woods...how do I propose a question to Peggy?
12:31:29 Peggy_O_Mara Maybe you could say something like, I appreciate your concerns, but I have to make my own decisions as a parent and will take your concerns into account. Please give me the benefit of the doubt and allow me to make my own decisions."
12:31:34 Webmama_Tina don't forget to say next question" when you are done. :)"
12:31:53 Webmama_Tina lol DODAD... here's the info you need:   Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
12:31:55 Peggy_O_Mara I'm an old gray mom. Fire away DODAD when you figure it out.
12:32:01 MOD_CelticAngel maemery is up next
12:32:11 maemery I am 38 weeks pregnant and my GB Strep test came back positive...I do not want antibiotics given to me during labor, but my midwife says I have no choice, as I am giving birth in a hospital.  I am trying to persuade her to let me take the test again in two
12:32:29 MOD_CelticAngel I'll add you to the que, DODAD and call you when it's your turn :)
12:32:49 maemery weeks...I am looking for some ways to get rid of the bacteria in my system during the next few weeks if it is possible
12:33:48 Peggy_O_Mara We have a great article that addresses this on the website. Type in group b strep into the search engine. There is a sidebar on herbal treatments and one on probiotic diet to get rid of the bacteria.
12:33:53 maemery and could change the test results...from what I've read, this test is wholly unreliable
12:34:45 Peggy_O_Mara I agree that the test is unreliable and the treatment overly cautious. From what I understand you make your own decision here and be on safe ground.
12:34:47 maemery Thanks, I'll try that...do you know of successes with it?
12:35:19 Peggy_O_Mara Yes, I do know of many successes. We could get you in touch with the author. Kimber is going to put that up here next.
12:35:32 maemery thanx peggy!
12:36:08 kimber The bio note on the author of the article conveys her success
12:36:30 kimber I tried to paste it in but that did not work
12:36:48 maemery can I contact her directly?
12:37:14 kimber email me at kimbers@mothering.com for author contact info, maemery
12:37:16 Peggy_O_Mara The article was in #121, Nov/Dec 2003. Email kimbers@mothering.com for the author
12:37:23 Peggy_O_Mara author's email.
12:37:40 maemery thank you
12:37:56 Peggy_O_Mara Good luck to you maemery. I wish you success. Fight the fear.
12:38:04 MOD_CelticAngel heids70 is up next
12:38:59 heids70 hi!  can u come back 2 me in a little while, i am nursing my 2 month old at the moment.  ps i am so nervous!  peggy is my HERO!!!
12:39:08 MOD_CelticAngel lol sure no problem
12:39:15 heids70 THANKS...
12:39:16 MOD_CelticAngel sweatpea you're up then :)
12:39:20 sweetpea I enjoyed your column about defining" natural family living and am wondering if you will do an update and let us know how others define natural family living (from responses to your questions at the end of the column)."
12:39:23 Peggy_O_Mara You are so dear. You are MY hero!
12:39:57 ruthla time for me to get ds- bye ladies
12:41:17 identitycrisismama ?
12:41:40 Peggy_O_Mara That issue with the natural family living editorial is the May/June issue and just out now and we're getting responses so I don't have too many yet. I really did not try to do a totally complete definition here, but wanted to counter the bad press that attachment parenting was getting from Judith Warner's book The Perfect Madness. Also, I wanted to communicate it in a simple, non-threatening way for parents new to it. So, if I left out anything important, I'm sorry but just did not want to make a new dogma.
12:42:27 Peggy_O_Mara I will think about doing an update and will certainly have a lively discussion in Your Letters in the mag.
12:42:32 sweetpea Will be interested in any responses printed in the next issue then!
12:42:49 Peggy_O_Mara What would you have added, Sweetpea?
12:43:13 sweetpea elimination communication!
12:44:07 sweetpea The bond my husband and I share with our daughter has been enhanced so much by listening to and respecting her communications in this area!
12:44:08 Peggy_O_Mara I have no personal experience with this so it's difficult for me to evaluate from a personal point of view.
12:45:16 Peggy_O_Mara Next question
12:45:37 MOD_CelticAngel laurawv is up next
12:45:51 laurawv Thank you so much for Mothering magazine... it's such an important link for me to the attachment parenting world, when I'm surrounded by mainstream parenters. I'm a new mom (my son is 11.5 weeks old), and had to go back to work when he was 8 weeks.
12:46:33 laurawv I'm just wondering if you have any insight as to how I can stay sane while having to be away from him for 40 hours a week. It's still so hard, and this is the 4th week... I'm all about attachment parenting, but it forms such a strong bond between us, which
12:46:38 laurawv is difficult when we have to be apart.
12:48:49 Peggy_O_Mara I sympathize wih you so much, Laura. I feel that ache of separation. Find other mothers in your situation, at least one who has been there, done that. Read Karen Pryor's book Breastfeeding and Working or something like that. Go to La Leche League meetings for working moms. Nurse a lot at night. Go the MDC boards and discuss (if you have time!!) Be with your baby as much as possible when you're not working. Wear your baby. Look for work from home.
12:49:27 Peggy_O_Mara No, It's Gale Pryor, Karen's daughter, who wrote the book.
12:50:13 laurawv I'm doing all the right stuff at home... being with him every minute. I'm reading Nursing Mother Working Mother, and it's great... it's just sometimes it seems so wrong to be a working mother. Thank you, Peggy. ...I hope that my question
12:50:21 laurawv sounded like an actual question, not just whining. :)
12:53:04 laurawv You're right, it would be great to have another mom who's done this to talk to... i'll try to find a group. Thank you. Thanks for Mothering... it's outstanding. --over and out.
12:53:23 Webmama_Tina http://groups.yahoo.com/group/APmomsconnect  might find ya someone
12:53:31 MOD_CelticAngel ikeessyou is up next
12:53:34 ikeessyou Peggy - I'm pregnant again after 16 years! I picked up Mothering and when I saw your picture, I felt like I was seeing a very dear old friend again! Interestingly enough, it was an older piece of yours that I remembered from long ago
12:53:34 Peggy_O_Mara I don't know what to say without making you feel worse. I think it is important to be with your babies in the early years. If we simply cannot do this, then we have to deal and cope with the feelings. If there are options, then we must look into them. If you have working because you have to that is one thing. If you are working because you think you should or because of pressure from your spouse or others that is another thing. Only you can sort that out and the ache you feel missing your baby, the gut pull from the invisible umbilical cord is real and for a reason. But, only you can figure out what your real choices are. You could also read some old books, Mothers at Home and Sequencing by Cardoza (I'm forgetting the spelling). Imagine other options.
12:53:59 Peggy_O_Mara 16 years, wow.
12:54:10 ikeessyou and it brought back so many memories. Being pregnant in my 40's is a lot different from 20's!
12:55:22 Peggy_O_Mara I'll bet. Do you feel more tired? More relaxed about things? Are you being terrified by high risk" talk or are you cool with that?"
12:55:30 ikeessyou I just wanted you to know how much you and Mothering have meant to me over the years, not just with babies, but with big" kids as well - especially teenagers! People are amazed that such a "liberal" mom can have such "good" kids!"
12:57:03 Peggy_O_Mara Isn't it funny what liberal means today. There's a difference between being open-minded and responsive with our kids and being permissive. We can still be the ones in charge while acknowledging and meeting our children's legitimate needs. I'm glad Mothering has helped you and I wish you the best with your new one. I bet the teens will be a great help!
12:57:17 ikeessyou It's hard not to be freaked out because of my advanced maternal age" and all the medical intervention that is recommended...but, I've opted"
12:59:04 Webmama_Tina holy cow, time flew...the time is nearly up...peggy do you need to jam right at the end or do you have time to answer a little more questions?
12:59:10 ikeessyou out of most everything with my doctor's approval. What has been most shocking is that in my practice, I stand out because I'm not asking for an epidural! AND, I don't know what" my baby is...people ask and I just tell them that it's a human being, that's"
12:59:13 Peggy_O_Mara When we did an article years ago on birth after 40, we discovered that the research, at least at that time and I suspect now, did not factor out lifestyle choices. So all women were lumped together. It is safe to assume that a woman in her forties with a healthy lifestyle would differ in her risk factors from one with an unhealthy lifestyle. It has been my experience that lifestyle not age is the factor in many health issues, even aging.
12:59:20 ikeessyou what we know! THANKS! Bye!
12:59:44 Peggy_O_Mara We can go 15 or 20 minutes longer if you all would like.
12:59:46 MOD_CelticAngel ilovezoeystar is up next and there's three more on the que after her
12:59:57 Webmama_Tina ok how many more questions in the que celtic?
13:00:03 Webmama_Tina oh you already answered me
13:00:04 Webmama_Tina LOL
13:00:05 MOD_CelticAngel :)
13:00:07 MOD_CelticAngel beat ya
13:00:09 Webmama_Tina yup
13:00:13 exuberantdaffodil New to the conept of AP yet knowing in my heart this is how I want to mother my baby, I am just now facing my one year old testing me, testing his limitations and how I respond to them. He is a screamer and has a strong, wonderful personality -
13:00:13 Peggy_O_Mara Thanks for your courage and for being a pioneer, ikeesyou.
13:00:18 ilovezoeystar Oh no! it won't copy and paste, well let me get it together!
13:00:40 Webmama_Tina Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
13:00:48 ilovezoeystar Well first i received 2 free issues as a gift from a friend of minue months ago
13:00:49 ikeessyou XXXXXXXOOOOOO, to you and Mothering!
13:01:14 ilovezoeystar one of the issues talked about woorking with a child, i read that articale and went around and found a job that sllows me to bring my 8 month old daugheter, zoey star to work with me
13:01:26 ilovezoeystar i just wanted to tell you thank you for bringing to my attention that things like that can happen
13:01:28 ilovezoeystar and secondly...
13:02:22 ilovezoeystar how can i approach a friend that practices the CIO method for bedtime?  where is a good place to find good evidence...her dr told her that cio would help her baby build up good vocal skills...would make him more social
13:02:41 Gemini oh dear
13:03:00 Webmama_Tina *)
13:03:10 ilovezoeystar I go to her house and 8:30 hits and she takes her happy babbling baby and puts him in his crib...he cries for sometimes 30-45 minutes
13:03:45 heids70 :crying
13:03:45 ilovezoeystar it kills me, and most of the time I leave...she says oh its not killing him Tamara, hes just tired, needs to cry himself to sleep"...but I can't help but to want to say something, I just don't know what to say..."
13:04:02 ilovezoeystar any advice?
13:04:20 Peggy_O_Mara First, exuberantdaffodil, don't project motives on your baby that are adult motives. Your baby does not test you at one year of life. He is just and only trying to meet his legitimate needs. His wants and needs are the same in the first few years of life. Try to figure out what he needs. Try to figure out what good reason he has for his behavior. He cannot talk too much yet so he may be frustrated trying to communcate them. Be like a detective, keep a journal if you need to to figure out what he needs. I don't know enough about the situation to comment on the screaming, but try anticipating his needs sooner, nursing him sooner, wearing him and see what happens.
13:04:27 MOD_Angie *yeowch*
13:05:05 Webmama_Tina http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.09/ChildrenNeedTou.html
13:05:43 ilovezoeystar i'm confused?
13:05:59 MOD_CelticAngel Sorry ilovezoeystar I think we got out of turn
13:06:15 ilovezoeystar oh, ok
13:06:19 ilovezoeystar sorry
13:06:30 Webmama_Tina sorry  ilovezoeystar ...i think she's answering  exuberantdaffodil ...but you'll get your turn
13:06:37 Webmama_Tina you were next, but hang tight. :)
13:06:50 Webmama_Tina that harvard link is for you though  ilovezoeystar
13:06:58 Peggy_O_Mara Even Ferber who invented" crying it out for a new generation recanted his opinion in The New Yorker a few years ago. No way about it, crying it out is cruel. I have written a few editorials on it that I could direct you too. Do you have to go to her house in the evenings. I would be unbearble. Under what other circumstances would we be so unmoved by the suffering of a loved one. Crying it out is about having a parent dominated home. In a healthy family, the needs of ALL family members are considered. Domination is not cool."
13:07:44 ilovezoeystar Thank you
13:08:04 kshelver ?
13:10:38 DODAD Hi Peggy, ...my question is how do we get the eyes and ears of the policy makers at a national level to bring sanity back to birth, nutrition, parenting and a wholesome and holistic western world...your sage advice Peggy the Divine Distaff Diva?...how do w
13:10:55 Peggy_O_Mara I don't know what to say to others. It depends on the friendship. Does she need support to hear the truth or does she want to believe her doctor. You could ask her what she needs, if she needs more information.
13:12:09 ilovezoeystar thats a great idea
13:12:12 Webmama_Tina At this time, the queue is full. Questions already in line will be asked, but we cannot take anymore today. Sorry for the inconvenience.
13:12:22 Webmama_Tina Upcoming chatters: heids70 identitycrisismama exuberantdaffodil kshelver
13:12:57 Peggy_O_Mara Oh, my DODAD, I wish I knew. Storm the place?? Have a nurse-in  for sanity. I think we have to wait out this last stand of tyranny, put in place a new society in our own homes, with our own children, in our own communities, elect leaders at the local level who are honest, work for campaign reform to get the money out of politics, tell the truth about what we see, imagine a better world and keep optimistic and hopeful.
13:13:11 Webmama_Tina DODAD currently has the floor with peggy. :)
13:13:22 Gemini Here here....
13:13:26 Peggy_O_Mara Do you want to dance, DODAD?
13:13:36 DODAD Yes...but not the tango
13:13:40 Webmama_Tina ROFL
13:13:43 Gemini lol.
13:13:43 Peggy_O_Mara Right on.
13:14:16 DODAD This has become my passion but I need help to hone my arrows so they hit the target...any suggestions?
13:15:07 Peggy_O_Mara Be specific. Choose one issue to focus on with a specific action plan. We've talked ourselves silly. Get on a board or a council, run for office yourself. Get a platform.
13:15:39 DODAD When we re out done by Korea in percentage of C-sections and are seen as the nation to follow....how do we lead from the top?
13:16:49 Peggy_O_Mara We don't lead from the top. We move forward by going deeper. Go into the issue, write letters to the editor, make them personal not theoretical so people can relate. Start with your local community. Do you have a birth network there? Start a Friends of Midwives group.
13:18:19 Peggy_O_Mara Kick down the despair. We don't have time for that. We are the leaders we've been waiting for. Stop being discouraged about it, and start fighting for what your believe in. Don't be immobilized by despair. There's always more to do to save the world. Just begin with something you can handle.
13:18:58 Peggy_O_Mara And, have fun doing it. That's what Molly Ivins says. Have fun while you're talking the truth.
13:19:24 DODAD Is there a data base of policy advisiors that we can do a letter writing campaign to...I am doing that here in Canada...but want to start hitting harder more directly at those who make the decsions to spend  5 billion on daycares but who won't allow stay a
13:19:26 Webmama_Tina do you have time for 3 more questions peggy or shall we wrap it up?
13:19:37 Webmama_Tina this is who i still have in line: heids70 identitycrisismama kshelver
13:19:46 Peggy_O_Mara Three more questions is fine.
13:20:02 Webmama_Tina (took out  exuberantdaffodil since her question was already answered)
13:20:05 DODAD Thanks ...Peggy I applaud your hope and foresight....
13:20:07 Webmama_Tina ok great
13:20:40 Peggy_O_Mara DODAD, I don't know. You could call or email Gary Ruskin at Commercial Alert. He knows how to find the movers and shakers in the US, but don't know about Canada. Could you start with your local reps and ask them?
13:21:17 Peggy_O_Mara Seems to me that optimism is a necessity these days. I just try to remember that I'm not in prison, have plenty of food and do not have The Plaugue.
13:21:36 Gemini heh
13:22:00 Peggy_O_Mara That would be The Plague.
13:22:09 DODAD When I wake up breathing I figure it is going to be a good day.
13:22:21 Peggy_O_Mara Oh, yes, and the right to vote.
13:22:27 Peggy_O_Mara Right on!
13:23:59 identitycrisismama Hi, Peggy
13:24:09 identitycrisismama sorry...
13:24:18 heids70 oh, my turn?
13:24:29 Peggy_O_Mara Hi crisis mama.
13:24:54 Webmama_Tina sorry got sidetracked... yes heids, your turn
13:25:14 Webmama_Tina Next up: heids70 identitycrisismama kshelver
13:26:17 heids70 ok.  I'll be quick.  I love to read and have all the books recommended from the back of mothering magazine.  What I would like is your top 5 picks for books me to read on my journey of raising my little girl.
13:26:36 Gemini excellent question!
13:27:18 Peggy_O_Mara I put my top 25 list in our 25th anniversay issue. Here goes a try at five.
13:27:31 Peggy_O_Mara Natural Family Living
13:27:46 Peggy_O_Mara Everyday Blessings
13:28:24 Peggy_O_Mara How to Talk so Kids can Listen and Listen so Kids can talk
13:29:03 Peggy_O_Mara Old classics: The Magic Years, The Conspiracy Against Childhood and The Child Under Six
13:29:13 Peggy_O_Mara Anything by Haim Ginott
13:29:33 Peggy_O_Mara And for safety, Smart Medicine and Taking Care of your Child
13:30:01 Webmama_Tina hard to narrow down, huh? LOL
13:30:16 heids70 oh goodie!  Thanks so much...by the way, is it possible to get an 8X10 signed picture of YOU so that I can hang it in our home?
13:30:20 Webmama_Tina next up: identitycrisismama kshelver
13:30:31 Peggy_O_Mara Check out the list on page 77 in issue 107 and on page 360 of Natural Family Living, the recommended books for the Afterword
13:31:55 identitycrisismama Hi, again...Could you offer suggestions about prioritizing NFL issues?  Like you said, I wnt to focus on the really important issues.  I'm bogged down in details.  Things like organic vs. locally grown convetional...the list goes on.  I struggle with many
13:32:31 identitycrisismama often conflicting choices regarding NFL nad it would really help me ot know how to focus my efforts...thanks
13:33:45 Webmama_Tina last up: kshelver (once  identitycrisismama is done)
13:34:17 identitycrisismama oh, my question is done...(I'm new here :LOL)
13:34:22 Gemini lol
13:34:57 kshelver Hi Peggy. We co-sleep with our 4-month-old. He's up every 1-2 hours. Friends who did cry-it-out say their kids slept 10-12 hours at that age. They disapprove of co-sleeping (and our parenting style). I disagree with them, of course, but worry  ...
13:35:12 Webmama_Tina wait, did peggy get to answer you yet though  identitycrisismama ?
13:35:29 Webmama_Tina sorry i'm just trying to move things along since we are way over time and i know peggy has a busy schedule. :)
13:35:31 identitycrisismama no...: )
13:35:34 Peggy_O_Mara First of all, it's not a religion or a dogma. It's a point of view. The point of view to do things in as natural state as possible. So you've already started by just asking what is more natural. Look for what's available in your community. Is there a farmer's market. Local produce is great and cheaper. Start shopping at natural food stores and compare prices. Start with live foods, like eggs and dairy. Try to get those organice. Get some veggies and may meat from local providers. Green Guide has some lists of what foods are the most sprayed. All that freaks me out though. Just start with one thing that draws you and do your best.
13:35:36 Webmama_Tina ok there ya go
13:36:23 identitycrisismama Thank you, Hannah
13:37:33 kshelver sorry - here's the rest of my question. We worry he's not getting quality sleep. Even my husband is starting to question it.
13:38:08 kshelver Any advice for more successful co-sleeping? I want to be a good parent :)
13:38:48 Peggy_O_Mara That is absolutely untrue and cruel to say that a 4 month old BREASTFED baby would sleep 10 to 12 hours a night. Research shows that babies do not sleep through the night until between 2 and 3 years when their immune system and brain mature more. Breasted human infants need to be fed every 2 to 3 hours because human breastmilk is low in fat. It is nice when babies sleep a stretch through the night and maybe at 4 months there is some of that, but once their teeth come in and then when they feel themselves having to urinate at 18 months, they will be wakeful. Don't you think that if there were really a way to get babies to sleep through the night, that we would have ALL heard about it by now.
13:39:21 Gemini lol,
13:40:49 Peggy_O_Mara You don't get quality sleep as a new parent and you survive. Big deal. My real advice: throw out the clock, don't count the number of hours you slept of didn't sleep. Don't complain about it all day long. Just get on with living. Sleep when your baby sleeps. Adapt to your baby. Trust your baby. Get a bigger bed. Have another bed for lovemaking and going off by oneself when necessary. Your baby needs you 24 hours a day. End of story.
13:41:27 Peggy_O_Mara By the way, they do want their own beds and their own rooms in time. I guarantee it.
13:41:49 kshelver Thanks -- I needed to hear this. I will follow my gut ... and keep reading Mothering Mag!
13:42:29 Peggy_O_Mara You are so welcome. Check out my editorial, The Truth about Nightwaking as well as In Their Hands.
13:42:45 Webmama_Tina ok that's it then mamas... :)
13:42:49 kshelver Thanks! Will do.
13:42:49 VJ Thanks ~ have enjoyed you again :)
13:42:55 Gemini thank you Peggy!
13:42:55 Webmama_Tina thanks SO MUCH, yet again, peggy!
13:42:59 Webmama_Tina great as always!
13:42:59 willowsmom Thanks Peggy...
13:43:05 fleur thanks peggy
13:43:06 fleur :)
13:43:06 Webmama_Tina transcripts will be up on sunday
13:43:07 Peggy_O_Mara Thank you all so much. I love you. You cheer me up. Keep on trusting yourself as parents!
13:43:13 Webmama_Tina great advice peggy!
13:43:17 Gemini :)
13:43:17 identitycrisismama Thank you
13:43:20 ktabbas HAPPY THAT THIS WAS MY FIRST EVER CHAT
13:43:22 Nemmer Thanks Peggy! :)
13:43:30 identitycrisismama Mine too, Ktabbas
13:43:36 Webmama_Tina ktabbas join us every week for another mothering magazine sponsored chat!
13:43:42 Webmama_Tina and mommychats has other chats as well...
13:43:52 ktabbas i hope to!
13:43:56 Webmama_Tina for this week's chats, scroll down below this chat window to see the purple this week's chats" box"
13:43:58 Peggy_O_Mara We'll do this on a regular basis.
13:44:00 Webmama_Tina (something new!)
13:44:06 Gemini I hope so,
13:44:09 Webmama_Tina and peggy are you planning on monthly peggy chats now?
13:44:29 Webmama_Tina check out the transcripts pages on mommychats for all past chats...mommychats sponsored and mothering mag sponsored
13:44:34 Peggy_O_Mara sure, whatever regularity works.
13:44:42 Webmama_Tina the link to the mothering mag sponsored chats are linked on the main transcript page
13:44:44 VJ weekly! lol
13:44:47 Webmama_Tina lol vj
13:44:48 Gemini lol
13:44:56 identitycrisismama daily
13:45:00 Gemini lol
13:45:02 VJ lol
13:45:12 Webmama_Tina cool peggy, that's awesome! i think its great for readers to have regular contact with you!
13:45:45 Gemini how about just a direct dial telephone number??
13:45:46 Webmama_Tina Please join the Mommy Chats egroup at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mommychats to receive notices about upcoming chats and changes to Mommy Chats.
13:45:47 Peggy_O_Mara I love it too.
13:45:49 Gemini just kidding
13:45:52 identitycrisismama :LOL
13:46:10 Webmama_Tina *joy*
13:46:23 Gemini oh my, that sounds isn't very joyful,
13:46:30 Webmama_Tina lol
13:46:36 Webmama_Tina its not?
13:46:37 Gemini heh
13:46:39 Peggy_O_Mara 505-984-6293, but I never answer my phone. I need an assistant!
13:46:47 VJ lol i bet
13:46:49 Gemini oh! I was kidding! lol
13:46:49 ktabbas ren and stimpy 'joy?"
13:46:59 identitycrisismama :LOL :LOL
13:47:21 steph Peggy, I will come be your assistant. ;)  tnrsmom from the boards
13:47:28 Webmama_Tina anyone that wants to stick around and learn more about mommychats and the features of this chat room (which we don't use all of during this chat...there's some fun stuff to play around with when the crowds are smaller, hehe)...please join me in the mommy lounge and i'll give ya  a little chatware 101
13:47:29 Webmama_Tina :)]
13:47:46 VJ see ya
13:47:50 Webmama_Tina especially for those of you still new to chats :)
13:47:55 Peggy_O_Mara Ok, steph, email me. peggyo@mothering.com
13:47:58 Webmama_Tina kinda neat to know what you're doing, lol
13:48:07 identitycrisismama I'll try to make it now...
13:48:15 Gemini lol
13:48:18 Peggy_O_Mara I'm going now to have lunch and face the madness. Love you all. Till next time.
13:48:19 Webmama_Tina a how'd they do that"? for mommychats...LOL"
13:48:24 Webmama_Tina take care peggy
13:48:26 Gemini thanks Tina
13:48:26 Webmama_Tina and stay cool!
13:48:28 ilovezoeystar I'll be steph's assistant
13:48:36 Gemini bye Peggy, thnak you
13:48:45 Gemini thank
13:48:46 ilovezoeystar bbye Peggy, you rock!
13:48:46 Peggy_O_Mara Good, I need you both!
13:48:55 Peggy_O_Mara Thanks, all. Bye. Bye.
13:48:58 identitycrisismama Yea, thanks again...H.
13:49:04 ktabbas blessings peggy
13:49:18 Gemini fun chat!

 

 

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