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6th Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Peggy O'Mara --
Editor and Publisher of Mothering Magazine and www.Mothering.com .
Peggy's taking time out from her ever busy schedule to come say hello to the Mothering community! Come chat with her about pregnancy, birth, and family concerns, activism ideas, and other topics of Mothering interest.
www.mothering.com
1/25/07

19 mamas in attendance

All Mothering Sponsored chats with Peggy:

12:53:29 Webmama_Tina Join us in a casual community chat with Mothering's own Peggy O'Mara. Peggy is the mother of four grown children. She has gained international celebrity as publisher, editor and owner of Mothering Magazine. She is also the author of four books: Having a Baby Naturally: The Mothering Magazine Guide to Pregnancy and Childbirth, Natural Family Living: The Mothering Magazine Guide to Parenting, The Way Back Home: Essays on Life and Family, and A Quiet Place: Essays on Life and Family. A dynamic speaker, she has lectured and conducted workshops in conjunction with organizations such as the Omega Institute, Esalen, La Leche International, and Bioneers. She has appeared on numerous television and radio programs and has been featured in national publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, Mother Earth News, and Utne Reader.
13:06:34 Webmama_Tina ok mamas, so glad to be able to say we have peggy o'mara with us today!
13:06:43 Peggy_O'Mara Hi Everybody. Great to be here!
13:09:18 Webmama_Tina anything you want to add to that wonderful blurb that i got from your site?
13:09:33 Webmama_Tina and mamas...start throwing out your question marks and i'll let ya know when your turn is
13:09:42 Peggy_O'Mara Please do, it already intimidates me and it's about me.
13:09:48 Webmama_Tina LOL
13:09:55 Peggy_O'Mara That was supposed to be Please NO
13:09:59 Webmama_Tina ROFL
13:10:01 Webmama_Tina ok peggy
13:10:16 Webmama_Tina ok mamas i know someone has a burning question for peggy...
13:10:23 Webmama_Tina just type a single question mark to get us started
13:10:38 kimberella ?
13:10:39 Renai ?
13:10:48 Webmama_Tina oh and peggy, i want to say a great big THANK YOU for the wonderful donation of your current issue to our local babyfest!
13:10:56 Peggy_O'Mara You're so welcome.
13:10:58 Webmama_Tina ok kimberella go for it, you're first! :)
13:11:09 Webmama_Tina yeah i can't wait to hand those out to everyone at the gate!
13:11:19 Peggy_O'Mara Who is the Welcome voice. OOEEEUUU.
13:11:29 kimberella What was your favorite article in the latst issue of Mothering, and why? 
13:11:48 Webmama_Tina just FYI for those that don't have the current issue...its got a wonderful baby carrier special in it...LOTS of great babywearing and carrier info!
13:12:00 Webmama_Tina perfect for our local event which has a babywearing theme, yay! :)
13:12:26 Peggy_O'Mara   I loved the babywearing special because young friends were telling me that found it confusing so we were happy to put this info out comprehensively. I love the stories from the dads about birth and the
13:12:26 Webmama_Tina lol welcome voice comes with the program
13:12:36 Peggy_O'Mara FGM piece is so important.
13:13:32 Webmama_Tina current chatter: kimberella .... upcoming chatters: Renai 
13:13:45 kimberella I'm happy to pass the talking stick, as it were...
13:13:54 Webmama_Tina :) ok renai
13:13:56 Webmama_Tina you're up! :)
13:14:13 Renai I'm still wondering why I live here in Santa Fe and did not hear about the great anniversary celebratioin that was held. I'm still a little sore about that one :p (I didn't say it was an important question)
13:14:24 Webmama_Tina mamas, just post a single question mark if you have a question for peggy and i'll add you to the list 
13:14:41 saragdogg ?
13:14:56 Webmama_Tina current chatter: Renai .... upcoming chatters: saragdogg 
13:15:12 saragdogg Can we ask anything?
13:15:14 bufomander ?
13:15:16 Peggy_O'Mara Sorry that happened. We had a lot of ads in the New Mexican and a cover story and distributed 
13:15:35 Peggy_O'Mara programs around time. Come by the office and we'll give you a program and poster. I'd love to meet you.
13:15:51 bennersmom ?
13:15:55 Renai Me too, that's why I was so sore. I love Mothering!
13:16:05 Peggy_O'Mara Come by and see us, Renai.
13:16:30 Peggy_O'Mara But, beware of the parking. There's construction around our office right now. EEK!
13:16:34 Renai Thanks Peggy, for putting up with my silliness. I want to come to the doula meetings if ya'll still have them, so I'll have my chance
13:16:44 Webmama_Tina current chatter: Renai .... upcoming chatters: saragdogg, bufomander, bennersmom  
13:17:13 Renai go ahead Tina
13:17:23 Peggy_O'Mara We'd be happy to have the doula meetings here. I don't know if they are still meeting. Do you know about the Birthing Tree?
13:17:46 Renai I did see an ad about them
13:18:02 Renai I'm starting to look now that I'm ttc
13:18:14 Webmama_Tina ok saragdogg, you're up! :)
13:18:19 Peggy_O'Mara Anyone wondering like me what's up with the retraction of the fabulous Consumer Reports car seat report? Industry has denied everything they said and put a lot of pressure on them I assume
13:18:34 Webmama_Tina yeah what's up with that? i saw that
13:18:40 saragdogg My 6 month old son prefers to sleep with me at night and during naps. He won't stay asleep otherwise. I've sought advice on mothering which basically gave me support in staying with him and I figure I'd rather have him get sleep. Do you have any advice to 
13:18:58 saragdogg tell dissenters (e.g. family) about him not sleeping alone?
13:19:17 Peggy_O'Mara You might want to check out the statement at the Juvenile Products Marketing Association site. It tells it all. I'm writing about it for my March/April editorial
13:19:22 Webmama_Tina current chatter: saragdogg .... upcoming chatters: bufomander, bennersmom  
13:19:31 Webmama_Tina ok good
13:20:40 Peggy_O'Mara I guess at some point you just have to stop tellling people who will criticize the intimate details of your sleep situation. I would gloss over it, keep it private. It is PERFECTLY NORMAL for him to want to sleep with you especially at such a young age. 
13:20:57 Peggy_O'Mara He doesnt even know he's a separate person yet. Who is bugging you the most?
13:21:19 saragdogg My mother...they live away and don't understand when I am visiting and have to go nap with him.
13:21:40 Peggy_O'Mara Try to keep it simple. 
13:22:08 Webmama_Tina don't mind me as i post for latecomers...
13:22:13 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single \?\" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. "
13:22:46 Peggy_O'Mara Try to keep it simple. \It works for me, mom.\" I found that my mother was very critical when my babies were little because this was all new to her. Now, she brags about my child rearing. Time will help her understand. Maybe you just have to bear this time."
13:23:25 saragdogg Thank you, sometimes it just helps to have more reassurance. 
13:24:18 Peggy_O'Mara Nighwaking is normal until 2 to 3 years. The more you respond to your child's legitimate dependency needs right now, the more independent he will be later.
13:24:32 Webmama_Tina amen to that :)
13:24:35 Peggy_O'Mara And, we are human beings. We REQUIRE touch.
13:24:52 Peggy_O'Mara Touch is a nutrient. We need it. 
13:25:33 Webmama_Tina current chatter: saragdogg .... upcoming chatters: bufomander, bennersmom 
13:26:26 Webmama_Tina ok buf, you're up!
13:26:30 bufomander mine's both simple and (perhaps) hard:  what are 4 of your favorite non-fiction books?  fiction?
13:26:43 Webmama_Tina current chatter: bufomander .... upcoming chatters: bennersmom 
13:28:21 Webmama_Tina ya stumped her buf, LOL
13:28:49 bufomander oops!:whistling: 
13:28:54 Peggy_O'Mara Wow, I would have to think about it. Off the top of my head, Nonfiction would be The Time Falling Bodes Take to Light, The Biology of Transcendence, (although I can only read a couple pages at a time), Fiction is harder for me to find. I like Charms for an
13:29:20 Peggy_O'Mara Charms for an Easy Life, Prodigal Summer, and anything by Lauren Van der Post, stories of Africa. 
13:29:56 laney2cuties whats the topic
13:30:07 bufomander good list, thanks!
13:30:28 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single \?\" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. "
13:30:47 Webmama_Tina  current chatter: bufomander .... upcoming chatters: bennersmom 
13:30:53 Webmama_Tina bennersmom, you're up!
13:30:57 bennersmom I have an almost-6 month old and will be introducing solids in the next month or two.  I've read different things about what an 'appropriate' first food is.  My hubby and I are inclined to give fruits & veggies before cereal...  any real reason this isn't 
13:31:01 bennersmom okay?
13:31:24 Webmama_Tina ok mamas, remember just throw out a single question mark if you have a question for peggy and i'll tell ya when its your turn
13:32:01 Peggy_O'Mara yes, good reason. Grains are more difficult to digest than fruits. I recommend starting with one fruit at a time for a couple of days, then veggies. Grains can be added closer to a year. And, don't feel you have to accomplish something. Breastmilk is the 
13:32:29 Peggy_O'Mara superior food so take your time and add solids as a condiment. Kimber, will you respond to this too?
13:32:47 skrhythm ?
13:33:31 Webmama_Tina  current chatter: bennersmom .... upcoming chatters:  skrhythm 
13:33:50 bennersmom so, waiting on the cereal is ok/good?
13:33:53 kimberella Sure thing. Indeed, at 6 mos. baby is not prepared to digest grains, and the gylcemic index cn go askew. Some research suggests grains too early =increasd risk for diabetes and obesity later in life. 
13:34:08 bennersmom bananas & avocado?
13:34:15 kimberella Simple friuts, like banana and avocado, scraped into mush are best first foods.
13:34:23 kimberella see, you know! 
13:34:27 bennersmom why so much talk about rice cereal?
13:34:45 kimberella probably well marketed to previous few generations, haha
13:34:55 Peggy_O'Mara Yes, ok to wait for cereal. Cereal is usually introduced because people think it will help the baby sleep through the night. Not true. I don't know why rice cereal is so popular. You do see as the first recommendation often.
13:35:06 bennersmom great, THANK YOU!
13:35:09 kimberella it is probably what most of us had first
13:35:11 bennersmom :)
13:35:33 Webmama_Tina skrhythm, you're up! :)
13:35:36 kimberella email me for more info: kimber@mothering.com. I'll get you some links and resources. 
13:35:36 skrhythm on the topic of food, do babies wake at night because they are hungry?  if so woudn't rice cereal \fill\" them more then fruits and veggies?  i know for myself i don't feel very full after fruit or veggies"
13:36:04 bennersmom great, i appreciate it...
13:37:19 Peggy_O'Mara I think babies wake at night mostly because of teething. And, yes, they do need to breastfeed often as breastmilk is low in fat. I can understand why people think rice cereal would fill up their babies, but there's no evidence for this, just superstition.
13:37:39 skrhythm what helps babies or moms get a full night sleep or more then 2-3 hours?
13:38:46 skrhythm none of my babies slept more then that till about 8-12 months i don't understand how some say that this happends between 3-6 months
13:39:02 Peggy_O'Mara I'm not sure this is a realistic expectation. I think you have to make a choice between parent centered parenting or responsive parenting. You can follow Ferber's cry it out instruction and \train\" you child that you wil not be there. Or you can flow with "
13:40:06 Peggy_O'Mara it. Parenting has no guarantees. There are things that help: regular routines, exercise, watching overstimulation, but in my experience it just comes with the territory until they are 2 or so. Sleep when the baby sleeps. Catch up on the weekends or when 
13:40:58 Peggy_O'Mara someone can help you. I found that what worked best for me was to stop whining about it. I stopped watching the clock every time I woke up. I stopped counting the hours. And, try not to turn on the light when you wake up. This is why many of us like the 
13:41:14 Peggy_O'Mara family bed. More sleep for all. Good luck getting through this period. How old are you babies?
13:41:16 kimberella  I know firsthand it can feel at times like you'll never get out of the interrupted-sleep tunnel, but family life operates on elastic time: before long, those \endless nights\" will feel like a hundrd years ago, and you'll be on the next stage. "
13:41:39 skrhythm we flow with it, but with baby #4 now, i was wondering if i was missing out on some vital information, but i guess not, we're doing just fine, thanks for your responce
13:41:54 skrhythm 10, 8, nearly 4 and 4 months
13:42:24 smohs ?
13:42:37 skrhythm yes, thank you ladies
13:42:38 Webmama_Tina go for it smohs
13:42:49 Peggy_O'Mara I know what you mean. Society makes us think we can control behavior that is really out of our control. Of course, we should have bedtime routines, and quiet time but we just can't control it. Paul Fleiss and Jay Gordon have good books out on this and Paul
13:43:01 Peggy_O'Mara has an old article he wrote for us. You're doing great.
13:43:50 smohs nak...  :>  what kind of gifts would you suggest for first time moms--to introduce to natural parnting?
13:43:52 Peggy_O'Mara You're almost there. That's a lot even in the best of circumstances.
13:44:01 bennersmom ?
13:45:04 Peggy_O'Mara Well, of course, a sub to Mothering and one of my books. I think people need space. They will mostly learn from example so it may be helpful just to have open conversations about why you've made certain choices. Baby carriers are great because everyone 
13:45:27 Peggy_O'Mara likes them. A diaper service is great. 
13:45:57 Webmama_Tina   current chatter: smohs .... upcoming chatters:  bennersmom 
13:46:14 smohs do you  suggest diaper service or wash your own?  heard services use too many chems...
13:46:37 smohs fave baby carrier?
13:47:22 Peggy_O'Mara I don't think the diaper services use too many chemicals. Never have heard that. I would suggest a diaper service for the first three to six months. Ask for it as a shower gift. Then cloth diapers after that. They are less expensive and more
13:47:38 Peggy_O'Mara environmentally cool. Check our www.realdiaperassociation.org
13:48:27 skrhythm ?
13:48:45 smohs thnx peggy--you're right to let moms figure on own. sub to mothering is great idea.  i love it--got as gift myself
13:49:43 Webmama_Tina ok benner, you're up! :)
13:49:47 bennersmom What are your thoughts on pacifiers?  When should babies 'be done' with them, if they've had them at all?
13:50:32 Peggy_O'Mara I'm only familiar with Snugli and Kelty backpacks as that was what I used. I like the looks of the wraps but it's so individual. Check out our special and we want to have babywearing demonstrations at conferences we attend.
13:51:21 bennersmom (Loved Having baby Naturally, by the way!)
13:51:29 Peggy_O'Mara I really hate pacifiers. No offense but they are just what the name implies. They are totally unnecessary and can undermine breastfeeding as sucking at the breast is precisely what builds up the milk supply. If a baby is used to them, I'm not sure what to
13:51:51 Peggy_O'Mara do because sucking is a need. But the sucking has a purpose and is better directed to the breast.
13:52:21 bennersmom Thanks!
13:52:25 smohs tnx again, peggy.  i use ring now, have pouch on order and thinking of trying wrap..  also used kelty bacpak for now-2-yr-old... :>
13:52:36 Peggy_O'Mara In issue 130, there is an article by a dentist about how pacifiers undermine the development of the mouth and jaw. 
13:53:53 smohs if can't bf (in car) i have temp used my (clean) finger instead...
13:54:38 bennersmom My son wouldn't take one (yay!), but I've had lots of talk w/other moms. Just wondering about your thoughts.
13:54:49 bennersmom thank you
13:54:49 kimberella that article addresses bottles as well as pacifiers. Good info! 
13:54:50 SandraMort ?
13:54:53 SandraMort Sorry I'm late!
13:54:57 Webmama_Tina :)
13:55:03 Webmama_Tina glad you made it sandra
13:55:16 Webmama_Tina oh i just remembered someone emailed me a question to ask peggy...gotta find it...
13:55:20 Webmama_Tina skrhythm you're next
13:55:22 skrhythm my sister in law wants to schedule her c-section.  she has had 2 prior (non scheduled).  she has gestationla diabetes, and the DR reccomemd that she gets it all planned.  is there anyting i can tell her to at least make her think?  had all 4 of mine at 
13:55:32 skrhythm home and it just breaks my heart
13:55:44 Webmama_Tina   current chatter:skrhythm   .... upcoming chatters:   SandraMort 
13:55:56 saragdogg ?
13:56:59 Peggy_O'Mara Wow, how can you be most helpful to your sister in law. She must know your point of view. Ask her if there is any information that you could get for her? Would she like your help? She would have to be pretty committed to overcome the fear caused by the 
13:57:55 Peggy_O'Mara gestational diabetes. This can be helped by eating more protein and is sometimes a rather \subjective\" defintion, but it would be scarey to hear. Do you know the work of Nancy Wainer. I would check with ICAN too, but I wonder if your sister in law is open "
13:58:05 Peggy_O'Mara to your ideas. Ask her than honestly first.
13:58:13 Peggy_O'Mara Ask her that honestly first.
13:58:36 smohs does GD mean you need c?
13:58:42 skrhythm i don't know it's hard
13:58:49 Webmama_Tina   current chatter:skrhythm   .... upcoming chatters:   SandraMort, saragdogg 
13:59:28 Webmama_Tina we're almost out of time, just a heads up
13:59:29 skrhythm i feel that i am the fortunate one.......and she somehow got the shaft
13:59:30 Peggy_O'Mara Cesarean is usually recommended for GD, but not required. It is a condition that can be observed and is often relieved by eating more protein. I think there are articles online.
13:59:33 Webmama_Tina At this time, the queue is full. Questions already in line will be asked, but we cannot take anymore today. Sorry for the inconvenience. 
13:59:44 skrhythm i don't want her to think i'm rubbing it in
14:00:06 skrhythm i know she wants to go \natural\"  and always has she tried with her 1st to have a home birth"
14:00:25 skrhythm so she was open then, cause i don't think she would have gone for it if it wasn't for us
14:00:32 Peggy_O'Mara What are you rubbing in. If she wants to go natural then it's totally different. Get her to ICAN.
14:00:41 kimberella www.ican-online.org/
14:00:42 skrhythm but now she seems to have thrown in the towel
14:01:04 kimberella that is the International Cesarean Anwareness Network website, if she wants the info
14:01:09 Webmama_Tina   current chatter:skrhythm   .... upcoming chatters:   SandraMort, saragdogg 
14:01:10 skrhythm but DR are gods have you not heard!!! they know it all
14:01:11 Peggy_O'Mara Of course, she's had so many disappointments. Are their birth practitioners in her area who would help her with this?
14:01:48 skrhythm she listed me a whole list of what the DR said when i asked her why
14:02:13 Peggy_O'Mara Are there midwives in her area?
14:02:22 skrhythm yes my midwives are great
14:02:58 skrhythm i'll go check out ican for her and see what i can learn, i don't want to take up all your time with this
14:03:07 skrhythm thank you so much for everything
14:03:10 Webmama_Tina sandra you're up!
14:03:12 SandraMort Hi, I'm really glad you're here, though I'm sad that I missed the beginning... I'll need to check out the logs later.  
14:03:20 Peggy_O'Mara I think a supportive practitioner, doctor or midwife or doula would be key. You're so welcome
14:03:34 SandraMort My question is when you'll be printing an article on EC? I know there are some really well written ones that have been rejected in the past, and I haven't heard any word of you changing that policy, despite all of the positive attention (cont'd)
14:03:36 skrhythm ok
14:03:46 SandraMort despite all of the positive attention recently in the media.
14:04:26 SandraMort Love the mag, btw.
14:04:48 Peggy_O'Mara We really don't have a policy. It's not that formal here. I simply have no personal experience with EC and am not convinced by what I've read. It has such zelous overtones in some writing and we've gotten such rabid emails about coverin the topic that is 
14:04:55 SandraMort You've introduced SO many women to ideas they're likely to have never considered before
14:05:20 SandraMort I don't know.  The articles that I saw that had been rejected were far from rabid or zealous.
14:05:30 Webmama_Tina for those that don't know... EC=elimination communication
14:05:37 Webmama_Tina diaperless babies
14:05:39 SandraMort The people I've spoken to are well educated and calm and very open to non-EC concepts.
14:05:42 Peggy_O'Mara sometimes hard for me to sort through that. I don't usually print articles beause of political pressure and don't understand why it is so important that we endorse this as an AP practice. I have nothing against it really, just am not into it. Does that 
14:05:46 Peggy_O'Mara make sense at all??
14:06:25 SandraMort No, it really doesn't.  I don't have a problem with you mentioning it as one of a number of options, but to leave it out altogether isn't doing your readers any favors.
14:06:53 SandraMort I cloth diaper as a backup -- I still buy them, as do most of the EC moms I know
14:07:14 SandraMort to me, it's a natural extension of AP
14:07:18 Peggy_O'Mara We have been waiting for the right article and do have one on hand that we like from Christine Gross-Loh.
14:07:26 SandraMort and while I understand that it's not a requirement, it's also not ANTI AP
14:07:42 SandraMort OKAY... so... will you be publishing her article?
14:08:05 Peggy_O'Mara I don't think it's anti AP. 
14:08:16 SandraMort then why not include it with your information as an option?
14:08:17 Peggy_O'Mara We'll see.
14:08:24 SandraMort *sigh*
14:08:26 SandraMort OK.
14:08:28 bennersmom what's AP?
14:08:34 Peggy_O'Mara Sigh.
14:08:39 Webmama_Tina saragdogg, you're the last question for today :)
14:08:42 Peggy_O'Mara What is AP actually?
14:08:44 Webmama_Tina AP=attachment parenting
14:08:47 saragdogg my son is exclusively bf and nearly 6 mos, he still spits up (usually white and curdly) more often than I would expect at his age but isn't fussy or seemingly uncomfortable when it happens..any thoughts?
14:09:05 saragdogg sorry it's something so simple
14:09:11 SandraMort Simple is good :)
14:09:34 Peggy_O'Mara My son did that and it worked for me to nurse him only on one breast at a time. I don't think there's anything wrong with spitting up.
14:10:04 saragdogg I already nurse only on one side as I have an overactive let down, but thank you
14:10:10 kimberella check out a La LEche meeting, just to get in a culture where bf is normal
14:10:27 kimberella and your questions and concerns are welcome
14:10:39 Peggy_O'Mara You're a Holstein, then! Why are so many terms dismissive of women. Overactive let down should be a good thing.
14:11:34 saragdogg I agree, my son is happy and healthy and now knows well enough to take himself off if it comes too fast!
14:11:41 saragdogg so smart
14:11:44 Peggy_O'Mara No worries then.
14:12:13 Webmama_Tina well it looks like we are out of time...i'm sure peggy has mounds of mothering work to do, LOL
14:12:17 saragdogg thank you again for your time 
14:12:22 Webmama_Tina we actually a little over
14:12:24 SandraMort Thanks for coming!
14:12:29 Webmama_Tina thank you SO much peggy
14:12:35 bennersmom thanks!!!
14:12:37 Peggy_O'Mara Mounds, but I love talking to you gals. Do we have any more outstanding guestions.
14:12:37 smohs thx peggy!
14:12:47 Webmama_Tina nope that was the last
14:12:53 Webmama_Tina i had thought i had one emailed to me
14:12:58 Webmama_Tina but i think that was for another chat
14:13:03 Peggy_O'Mara Thank you everyone. Keep the faith. Believe in yourselves. You are doing great.
14:13:16 Webmama_Tina thank you peggy!
14:13:22 skrhythm :)
14:13:29 Webmama_Tina and the transcripts will be up soon...if you're on the egroup, i post when i upload them
14:13:36 Webmama_Tina Please join the Mommy Chats egroup at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mommychats to receive notices about upcoming chats and changes to Mommy Chats. 
14:13:40 SandraMort Excellent.  I look forward to reading the parts I missed.
14:14:07 Webmama_Tina i'm so glad everyone was here today to join us! and with some excellent questions!
14:14:34 Webmama_Tina time for me to get back to my little ones....y'all are welcome to stay and chat on mommychats as long as you like, i just ask that you move to a different room so i can close this one up. :)
14:14:48 marlee I hope you will be back again soon
14:14:56 Peggy_O'Mara Love to. Let's make a time.
14:15:01 Webmama_Tina oh FYI i took the MDC mamas chat room down because no one used it so i just put an attachment parenting room up instead :)
14:15:15 Webmama_Tina ok peggy, just have cynthia let me know and we're always good to go! :)

 

 

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