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12:06:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok today we have rachel gathercole as
our guest speaker! rachel, why don't you
introduce yourself and tell us a little
about your background and expertise and
such...don't forget to promote any
websites or books you might have! :) |
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12:06:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
and let me know when you are ready to
take your first question |
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12:06:19 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Okay, thanks! |
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12:06:28 |
Webmama_Tina |
and mamas...you can start throwing out
your question marks to get in line for
talking to rachel. :) |
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12:06:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
i expect we'll get more people in here
soon |
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12:08:01 |
avocado123 |
hello |
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12:08:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
hi avocado123 , glad you made it! we're
just getting started1 |
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12:08:18 |
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12:09:24 |
avocado123 |
? |
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12:09:44 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Sorry, bear with me, please. I'm having
a little technical problem. Will only
take a second. |
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12:09:52 |
Webmama_Tina |
no worries :) |
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12:09:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
i can certainly relate |
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12:09:57 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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12:11:02 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I am the mother of three wonderful
children who have never been to school,
I have been homeschooling for 10 years,
and am the author of a number of
articles on homeschooling, parenting,
and children, including the Mothering
article Homeschooling's True Colors."" |
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12:11:24 |
kitkatsmama |
am i here? |
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12:11:29 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes you are! |
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12:11:31 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I am also the author of a forthcoming
book on homeschool socialization, to be
released early in 2007. |
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12:11:46 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I grew up in great public schools, loved
school, went on to attend and graduate
from the University of North Carolina at
Chapel Hill, and am now very happy to be
homeschooling my kids. |
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12:11:53 |
kitkatsmama |
whoo hoo- i was poting my questions in
the wrong room (oops!) |
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12:12:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
welcome kitkatsmama ! |
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12:12:21 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
When my first child was born I had never
even heard of homeschooling. Everything
I know about homeschooling I have
learned “on the job” and through
research and extensive interviewing I
have done since having children. |
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12:12:27 |
kitkatsmama |
thanks. |
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12:12:28 |
kitkatsmama |
? |
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12:13:05 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Looking forward to chatting with you
all! Ready for questions. :) |
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12:13:08 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters: avocado123,
kitkatsmama |
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12:13:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
you're up first avocado! |
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12:13:25 |
avocado123 |
i've read john holt. my husband and his
bro were homeschooled for several years.
it made a huge impact, i believe, in so
many ways, all positive and lifelong. |
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12:13:37 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Glad to hear it. |
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12:13:40 |
avocado123 |
i'm not enamored of the local schools,
crowding, violence, worksheets, lugging
texts, so many kids so little ability to
tailor the program to each kid's pace
and abilities, etc. so i want to
homeschool (our kids are now 3.5 and
1.5) BUT |
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12:14:19 |
avocado123 |
i don't believe all the socialization
arguments i've read on homeschooling
sources because i've met several groups
of homeschoolers in several different
cities. in all cases, the kids did not
have the social skills their schooled
peers did. and |
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12:14:39 |
avocado123 |
in many cases, they were kids who
impressed me as being under their age
level in maturity and social interaction
skills, as well as some were plain
unpleasant. and i love kids. growing up, |
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12:15:50 |
avocado123 |
i was the teen who wante dto work with
the tougher kids and always found the
diamond in the rough |
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12:16:05 |
avocado123 |
but these homeschooled kids i've met
have really done the opposite, they were
the kind of kids i didn't see as role
models for our kids and i didn't want
our kids hanging out with them |
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12:16:08 |
mascontay3 |
hello all |
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12:16:12 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Are there specific social skills you are
referring to that you saw them as
lacking? |
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12:16:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
hi mascontay3 ! glad you could make it! |
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12:16:32 |
avocado123 |
well, communication |
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12:16:36 |
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12:16:51 |
avocado123 |
their learning skills were subpar (i was
invited to an intercultural day) and
they presented what they learned |
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12:17:06 |
avocado123 |
also the way they interacted amongst
themselves wasn't heartening |
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12:17:10 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Hmm. Well, I am sorry to hear that that
is your experience with homeschooled
kids. I can understand your concern
then regarding possibly homeschooling
your own kids. |
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12:17:47 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
In general, research seems to indicate,
and my experience would agree, that
homeschoolers do well socially, and |
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12:18:19 |
avocado123 |
at nursery school our son now spends
hours socializing with other kids. he
comes home and has just me and a
sibling. don't get out much and i'm
pregnant with our third and expect to be
nesting for a good while longer. |
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12:18:51 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I wonder why your experience seems not
to match that. Of course, |
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12:19:07 |
avocado123 |
i;ve met homeschoolers in four different
cities |
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12:19:17 |
avocado123 |
there is only one left that i haven't
checked out 1.5 hours away |
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12:19:24 |
avocado123 |
but how could that possibly be our main
socializing? |
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12:19:47 |
avocado123 |
at nursery school there is daily
interaction with the same kids....but if
we rely on h omeschoolers who don't live
in our city it's hard to build on those
relationships |
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12:19:48 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Well, I can suggest a couple things. |
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12:20:28 |
Mrs.Peanut |
Do your children play with the
'schooled' children who live on your
street? That is socializing, too. |
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12:21:30 |
avocado123 |
it is to a certain extent but our
neighbors kids have social get togethers
for famlies in the school and the kids
walk home together and study together |
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12:22:02 |
avocado123 |
trying to nab other kids and their busy
lives is tough cuz they go to activities
and it's like intruding on their
schedules |
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12:22:04 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
One thing is that every family is
different and your goals for your
children's social experience may not
match those of the types of groups you
have been to. There are different types
of groups, and some are easier to find
than others; I am just speculating that
this could be one part of the
situation. One possibility. . . |
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12:22:24 |
avocado123 |
Rachel, i agree with that....but the
women were soooo nice! |
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12:22:29 |
avocado123 |
i was just appalled by their kids |
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12:22:41 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
would be for you to start a group for
like-minded people, because if you are
having a hard time finding a group that
matches your needs, then I'm sure others
in the area are as well. |
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12:23:00 |
avocado123 |
i don't know of homeschoolers in our
city of 70,000 |
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12:23:21 |
avocado123 |
that's why i want to fit into a group
that meets in another city and draws on
folks from all around |
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12:23:44 |
avocado123 |
one group basically told us to go away
until our kids were school age cuz they
want peers for their kids. that is the
closest one to us |
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12:24:02 |
avocado123 |
again, how does that count as
socialization, if it's just once every
other week? it's far from daily
relationships |
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12:24:18 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
There are probably others out there, and
they don't know about you, either. :)
Ultimately, you have to do what's right
for your family. |
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12:24:20 |
avocado123 |
i don't mean to monopolize this....i
just have these thoughts churninga round
for so long and noone to sound them off |
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12:24:47 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I understand. Maybe more ideas will
come out later. Good luck with this! |
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12:24:56 |
MommaCrystal |
? |
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12:25:17 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Next question? |
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12:25:34 |
kitkatsmama |
can you recommend a good refernce book
for getting started? katherine will be
four, and attended preschool two
mornings a week this past year- she had
a WONDERFUL teacher who could see her
potential, but was somewhat bound by the
curriculum. |
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12:26:12 |
kitkatsmama |
so, k was a bit bored by the end of the
year. i'm looking for a loose reference
guide to point me in the right direction |
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12:26:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters: MommaCrystal (after
kitkatsmama ) |
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12:26:41 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Well, the right direction" depends on
what you have in mind in terms of what
approach you would like to take. . ." |
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12:27:04 |
kitkatsmama |
i think we do some things now that are
helpful- cooking, looking for letter
recognition in signs, and then seeing
how many words we can think of that
begin with that letter |
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12:27:18 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
There are many different ways of
homeschooling. |
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12:27:53 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
There is a book called Take A Deep
Breath. . .You Can Do This!" which you
might find helpful." |
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12:28:12 |
kitkatsmama |
well, that's just it, i need to know
what the approaches are, first... i've
heard of 'unschooling', but haven't
looked much into what it actually is- i
just know that for the $1800 preschool
would cost next fall, she could be doing
so many more things |
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12:28:36 |
kitkatsmama |
(please excuse my awful typing, i'm
typing over a sleeping babe) |
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12:29:17 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
That leap" into homeschooling is often
the hardest part. I also would
recommend any book by John Holt; "What
Do I Do Monday?" "How Children Learn"
etc. Any of these will give you ideas
and help you get started, I think." |
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12:29:29 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Hope that helps. Next question? |
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12:29:36 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I |
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12:29:39 |
Webmama_Tina |
MommaCrystal, you're up |
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12:29:42 |
MommaCrystal |
I would like to hear about specific peer
reviewed research articles that discuss
the social skills of children who are
home schooled. |
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12:29:58 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Good question! |
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12:30:16 |
MommaCrystal |
Or really any resources. And who is the
author of the Take A Deep Breath book |
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12:30:42 |
MommaCrystal |
Other books. Plus when will yours be
available? :) |
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12:31:12 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
There have been a number of studies, and
whether they are all peer-reviewed I
unfortunately cannot say at the moment
(though I agree that is important). . . |
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12:31:18 |
kitkatsmama |
thank you for the resources |
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12:31:31 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
You're welcome! |
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12:33:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
avocado123 i'm PM'ing you |
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12:34:28 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
There have been studies of the
self-esteem of children in different
schooling environments, studies of
amounts of problem behavior,"
self-concept, etc. Some of these have
been in the form of dissertations, etc.,
and others have been articles. It would
be difficult for me to cite titles,
authors, etc., here (though I do go into
them in more detail in my book). You
can also look in the book "But What
About Socialization? A Review of the
Literature" which sums up lots of
studies." |
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12:35:02 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I'm sorry, I can't remember who the
author of that book is, but the
publisher is Mapletree Publishing
Company. |
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12:35:18 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
My book will be released probably early
in 2007. Thanks for asking! :) |
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12:35:21 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Next question? |
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12:35:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
no one else in queue....mamas? |
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12:35:45 |
MommaCrystal |
Thank you that was helpful. |
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12:35:58 |
MommaCrystal |
? |
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12:36:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
i have that book....take a deep
breath... |
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12:36:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'll go look up the author |
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12:36:30 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
To avocado 123 I have another thought. .
. |
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12:36:38 |
avocado123 |
okay |
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12:37:01 |
Webmama_Tina |
go ahead with your question mommacrystal |
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12:37:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok the book is homeschooling: take a
deep breath--you can do this" by terri
lynn bittner" |
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12:37:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
excellent book! |
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12:37:47 |
MommaCrystal |
Since we have the chance to chat... can
you talk about the kinds of social
experiences you gave your children? |
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12:37:58 |
MommaCrystal |
What worked, what didn't? Did you tap
into public school? |
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12:38:22 |
MommaCrystal |
How much is too much... or too little,
at least as your experience went or
those you know. |
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12:38:30 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
In my experience when parents are
particularly concerned about one issue,
such as their kids having peer contact,
these are usually the very parents who
are going to make sure that that need is
met. Thus, ironically, it is these
parents who have the least need to
worry. Does that make sense? |
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12:38:46 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Or their kids having a particular
quality of peer contact. |
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12:39:02 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Interesting question, MommyCrystal. |
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12:39:38 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I have found overwhelmingly that the
most important social experiences occur
at home. This I believe is true no
matter where your kids are schooled. . . |
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12:40:04 |
avocado123 |
at home with the parent and siblings? |
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12:41:10 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
My children have participated in a large
homeschool group all along, and have
lots of peer contact, but it is the
talking we do at home, and learning
skills for living and getting along as a
family (yes, parents and sibling) that
seem most important. |
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12:41:37 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
These skills carry over to their
interactions with their friends. |
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12:42:35 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I have found a balance of family time
(much more than what is possible while
attending school) to peer time very
helpful. |
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12:44:17 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I have heard many parents comment that
when their kids get up in the morning,
they will often ask, Can we play with
so-and-so today?" and almost never "Can
we play with lots and lots of kids
today?" Many kids seem happiest playing
with a few close friends." |
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12:44:36 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Are there any other questions? |
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12:44:58 |
Mrs.Peanut |
? |
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12:45:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
go for it mrs peanut |
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12:46:29 |
Mrs.Peanut |
My eldest two children are in school. I
am homeschooling my 5 y-o, my 3 y-o (and
our soon-to-be-born). My husband is not
100% behind the decision to homeschool.
He would prefer the kids to be in
private school. Any suggestions to help
convince him? |
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12:46:43 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
What are his concerns? |
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12:47:07 |
Mrs.Peanut |
Well, he's not very clear about that.
Of course, he has mentioned
socialization as an issue. |
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12:47:29 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Naturally. :) That is usually everyone |
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12:47:34 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
's first concern. |
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12:48:41 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Well, I think that in general people are
worried that homeschooled kids won't
have peer contact. But in general, they
do. . . |
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12:49:07 |
Mrs.Peanut |
I firmly believe that sending our
free-spirited 5 yo to school will
destroy her spirit and completely
UNsocialize her |
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12:49:47 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
In fact, in interviewing homeschoolers
across the country, I was intrigued to
discover that the majority of the kids
said they have more time to hang out
with friends than they did when they
were in school. |
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12:50:19 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
They often said that in school, although
there were many kids around, they were
not really allowed to socialize with
them. |
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12:50:37 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
(In the sense that they were not
supposed to talk, only had 4 minutes
between classes, etc.) |
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12:51:02 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Why do you feel that sending her to
school will destroy her spirit and
unsocialize her? |
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12:51:10 |
Mrs.Peanut |
I believe that completely. Danielle
(the 5 yo) goes to Sparks (Girl Guides),
we get together weekly with a local
pre-homeschool group. |
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12:51:54 |
Mrs.Peanut |
My experience with schooling our eldest
two children have shown me that when you
put 300+ children in a playground with
one adult supervising, children are
cruel to each other. |
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12:52:30 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Homeschoolers often find that, because
homeschooling is so efficient (no
busywork, attendance, etc.), they have
gobs of time to go over to friends'
houses, play with groups of kids at the
park, etc. |
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12:52:37 |
Mrs.Peanut |
One teacher in a class of 30+ students
cannot allow each child to grow and
blossom individually - the classroom
would be chaotic |
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12:52:52 |
Mrs.Peanut |
Exactly. |
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12:53:04 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Perhaps if your husband agreed to try it
for a year, he would see a difference
himself? |
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12:53:14 |
avocado123 |
? |
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12:53:24 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Are there any other questions waiting? |
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12:53:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
just avocado123 |
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12:53:51 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Okay, next question, then? :) |
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12:53:53 |
avocado123 |
you mentioned hsers having time to play
with other friends.....where do they
make these close friends? |
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12:53:54 |
drdawn |
? |
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12:54:02 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Excellent question. |
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12:54:46 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Homeschoolers make friends in many of
the same ways school kids do. Scouts,
church/synagogue/etc., soccer, dance
class, in the neighborhood, etc., in
addition to |
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12:55:14 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
having all day to socialize with other
homeschoolers if the family chooses to.
hey find these homeschoolers |
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12:56:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
mommy groups too |
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12:56:41 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
by searching out homeschool groups,
which can take patience :), by forming
their own groups, etc. You can also
post notices that you are looking for
like-minded homeschool friends at
community centers, health-food stores,
etc. |
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12:56:44 |
avocado123 |
it just seems like we'd have to drive
those relationships and actually drive
all over town or to other cities. from
nursery school, sometimes other moms
just call me and invite him over. that
seems more natural than having to
orchestrate it thorugh activit |
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12:56:51 |
avocado123 |
or force ourselves onto others |
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12:57:22 |
avocado123 |
i wrote down everything you said and
will try it |
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12:57:31 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Also, sometimes community businesses
have homeschool events or sessions (like
the bowling alley, library, etc.) and
you can go to those to hook up with
people. Yes, mommy groups,
breastfeeding groups. You have to look,
but they're out there. :) |
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12:58:00 |
Mrs.Peanut |
My eldest daughter is in school and I
have to drive all over the city picking
her up at friend's homes. That's life
as a mom, homeschooling or not |
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12:58:33 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Well, I agree. And hopefully, if you
take the time to find the people, then
the natural calling and inviting over
part gets really easy. :) |
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12:58:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
also start a yahoogroup |
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12:58:59 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Good idea! |
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12:59:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
if you build it, they will come"" |
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12:59:34 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Another thing I heard often from
homeschoolers I interviewed for my book
was that they don't have as many
friends, but their friendships are
deeper and more rewarding. This came
from kids and parents. |
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12:59:46 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Any other questions? |
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12:59:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
i think our time is uop |
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12:59:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
up |
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13:00:21 |
avocado123 |
Thank you! |
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13:00:21 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I wish I could make so many more
suggestions. It's hard in such a short
time. |
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13:00:26 |
Mrs.Peanut |
Thank you Tina, Thank you Rachel! |
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13:00:27 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Thank you! |
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13:00:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
we'll have to have you come back again
rachel! |
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13:00:37 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
I would love it. |
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13:00:44 |
MommaCrystal |
Thank you! I'd love to chat with you
again! SOON! |
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13:00:47 |
Webmama_Tina |
also, anyone that is interested, we have
a casual homeschooling chat every sunday
evening |
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13:00:55 |
Mrs.Peanut |
what time? |
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13:00:57 |
Webmama_Tina |
there are lots of mamas that might be
able to help with more ideas |
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13:01:19 |
Webmama_Tina |
and join your local homeschool
organization online, if you have one... |
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13:01:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes! maybe you'd like to do a regular
homeschool chat? we only have a casual
one right now |
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13:02:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
scroll down to the bottom of this page
to see the chat calendar |
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13:02:17 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Keep asking around. I think you'll find
other people who want the same things as
you do. They may have been turned off
by the same things you were turned off
by, avocado123, and may be looking for
you! |
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13:02:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
hs chat is 7/8/9/10p pst/cst/mst/est |
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13:02:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
on sunday |
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13:02:29 |
Webmama_Tina |
s |
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13:02:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes, avocadomom, you just need to keep
looking....you still have lots of time,
your little ones are still very young |
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13:03:01 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Oh, one more thought. . . |
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13:03:27 |
avocado123 |
gotta decide by next Jan/Feb, just when
our third child is born, whether or not
to enroll our son in the city
kindergarten |
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13:03:31 |
jjuulliieett |
I am living proof of if you built it
they will come, but it took 3 years.
Don't give up hope. |
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13:03:37 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Go to parks, etc., during school hours!
If kids are there, they may be
homeschoolers! |
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13:03:45 |
avocado123 |
you built a homeschool group in your
city? |
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13:03:48 |
jjuulliieett |
Yes. |
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13:04:00 |
jjuulliieett |
SSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
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13:04:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
i did too |
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13:04:13 |
avocado123 |
parks during school hours are so
depressing even the babies are taken
care of by people other than their
parents |
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13:04:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
start with a yahoogroup and a webpage |
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13:04:15 |
jjuulliieett |
but connecting with my midwife for
reaching out was great |
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13:04:24 |
avocado123 |
i've got a midwife! |
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13:04:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
where are you avocado? |
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13:04:40 |
avocado123 |
i'm an american living on the other side
of the globe. |
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13:04:44 |
jjuulliieett |
many homebirth mamas homeschool |
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13:04:51 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Also, you can always try it for a while
and see how it goes. The city
kindergarten will no doubt take your
child in the middle of the year, or the
following year, or whatever. Don't feel
pressured. Do whatever feels right to
you. |
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13:04:54 |
avocado123 |
i've been to homeschool groups for
english speakers and for nonenglish
speakers |
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13:04:54 |
jjuulliieett |
that is where I formed LOTS of
connectoins |
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13:05:26 |
avocado123 |
the city kindergarten is competitive, in
the sense i want the closest one and
they might not want me. |
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13:05:34 |
avocado123 |
so jullie your connections were from
your midwife? |
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13:05:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
time for me to go...my dd's yoga class
is starting |
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13:05:37 |
jjuulliieett |
Yes, Rachel, I agree. the pressure is
the worst. Remember that in KG they are
still so little, and one year out of
school can make such a difference |
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13:05:40 |
avocado123 |
other folks she birthed? |
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13:05:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
y'all stay and chat as long as you like |
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13:05:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'll be back to close the room later |
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13:05:51 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Is there a La Leche League group in the
area? You may find homeschoolers there. |
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13:05:53 |
Webmama_Tina |
THANK YOU RACHEL!!!! |
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13:05:56 |
jjuulliieett |
Yes, avocado, met lots there |
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13:06:02 |
Webmama_Tina |
y'all can casually chat as long as you
like...see ya! |
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13:06:03 |
jjuulliieett |
THANK YOU RACHEL |
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13:06:08 |
jjuulliieett |
bye tina |
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13:06:08 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Thank you so much for having me! |
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13:06:17 |
Rachel_Gathercole |
Bye, Tina! |
