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20:56:54 |
sarahjbuckley |
Hello everyone, it's great to be here
again, I hope I have all the technical
stuff right, and please excuse my typos!
As my intro said, I'm a family physician
currently full time writer and mother to
my 4 children, ages 6 to 16, living in
Brisbane Australia |
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20:57:07 |
SandraMort |
Hello again! |
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20:57:15 |
sarahjbuckley |
where it's 12 noon in late summer. My
book Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering has
lots of topics that I can cover, check
the contents list here. http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/pdf/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering-toc.pdf |
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20:58:10 |
sarahjbuckley |
and in my book http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm |
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21:04:34 |
Webmama_Tina |
okey dokey...here's the blurb on sarah
again....for those that missed it.... |
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21:04:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
Sarah J Buckley is a trained GP (family
physician), with qualifications in
GP-obstetrics and family planning and an
expert panel member of Mothering's Ask
the Expert. Since 1997, Sarah has been
sharing her unique perspective through
writing and lecturing, in which she
critiques current practices in
pregnancy, birth and parenting from a
scientific as well as a personal
viewpoint. Her articles have been
published in midwifery and parenting
magazines internationally, including
Mothering magazine, Midwifery Today,
MIDIRS, and the Journal of Prenatal and
Perinatal Psychology and Health. Topics
which Sarah has researched and written
about include ecstatic birth; epidurals
and other drugs in labour, ultrasound
and prenatal diagnosis; third stage of
labour and lotus birth; extended
breastfeeding; co-sleeping; elimination
communication (raising babies without
nappies); healing power of birth; yoga
and motherhood: fertility awareness and
gentle discipline. Sarah encourages us
all to listen to our hearts and our
intuition, and to claim our rightful
role as the real experts in pregnancy,
birth and mothering. For more of Sarah's
writing, and her book Gentle Birth,
Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science
of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth,
and parenting, see www.sarahjbuckley.com. |
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21:04:59 |
sarahjbuckley |
Hello everyone, it's great to be here
again, I hope I have all the technical
stuff right, and please excuse my
typos! |
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21:05:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
you're doing great sarah! |
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21:05:16 |
sarahjbuckley |
Basically, you can ask me most things in
pregnancy, birth and parenting, but I
can't give you long or very personalized
answers in this forum |
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21:05:27 |
sarahjbuckley |
Topics that I enjoy chatting about
include natural birth, breech birth,
lotus birth, cord clamping and cord
blood banking , co-sleeping, attachment
parenting, raising babies without
diapers (!), gentle discipline. |
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21:05:44 |
sarahjbuckley |
You can also check out my answers to
questions on the Mothering Experts forum
here
http://www.mothering.com/sections/experts/buckley-archive.html
and more of my articles here
http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/articles/articles.htm |
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21:05:55 |
sarahjbuckley |
and in my book
http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm |
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21:06:13 |
sarahjbuckley |
My book Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering
has lots of topics that I can cover,
check the contents list here.
http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/pdf/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering-toc.pdf |
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21:07:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok mamas, anyone with a question...just
type a single question mark and i'll let
ya know when it's your turn :) |
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21:07:36 |
SandraMort |
? |
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21:07:43 |
SandraMort |
HAHAHAHA I win ;) |
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21:07:45 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok sandra, you're first! |
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21:07:46 |
Webmama_Tina |
LOL |
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21:07:57 |
SandraMort |
Well, YEAH, I got here 90 minutes early
to make sure I was first! LOL |
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21:08:03 |
SandraMort |
I have a 21 month old son who has been
ec'd since birth. He has, in the past,
used the ASL sign for POTTY but is
currently not using it as part of his
vocabulary, though we sign and cue with
him. |
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21:08:50 |
SandraMort |
He was nearly \graduated\" by 9 months,
but when e started crawling, he entered
a \"pause\" and has not been reliable
since. Currently, we catc about two
poops a week, and almost never any pee,
and it's frustrating :)" |
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21:09:16 |
sarahjbuckley |
How is he when you remind him ? |
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21:09:20 |
SandraMort |
He's not interested in having privacy,
naked time doesn't help, more frequent
or less frequent reminders don't help,
cloth training pants or naked time don't
help |
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21:09:39 |
SandraMort |
He usually refuses to go, waits until
I'm distrated and eliminated (diaper,
training pants or floor, depending on
his state of dress) |
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21:09:44 |
SandraMort |
distracted |
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21:09:50 |
sarahjbuckley |
Waht is your sense of whre he is at with
it all? |
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21:10:25 |
SandraMort |
My sense is that there's something
really obvious that I'm missing but that
his late speech skills are preventing
him from telling me what. It's
frustrating, thoug I have no regrets
about going this route. |
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21:10:37 |
sarahjbuckley |
Where does he usually pee and poop? |
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21:11:16 |
SandraMort |
diaper, training pants, floor, though a
few times a week he uses a potty (we
have several, as well as a reducer,
which he likes to sit on but won't use) |
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21:11:42 |
sarahjbuckley |
IS he comunicative in other ways? Is he
happy and co-operative around other
issues like food or is it part of a
general \I'll do it my way\" sort of
thing do you think?" |
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21:12:19 |
SandraMort |
Yes, I think it's probably an
independence thing, and that he wants me
to do (or not do) something, but I
haven't a clue what. |
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21:12:31 |
sarahjbuckley |
Have you had times of completely
removing any message or pressure and
letting him do what he wants? |
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21:12:35 |
SandraMort |
So I patiently wait for him to decide
it's time and I'm sure it'll be
overnight when he does |
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21:12:48 |
SandraMort |
Yes, he takes himself to the potty a
couple of times a week |
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21:12:48 |
sarahjbuckley |
How do you feel about it? |
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21:12:52 |
SandraMort |
I'm not concerned. |
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21:13:11 |
SandraMort |
It would be NICE for him to graduate but
there's no stress or pressure over it |
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21:13:49 |
SandraMort |
That would sort of defeat the purpose of
ec'ing, you know? |
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21:13:58 |
sarahjbuckley |
Well, maybe you will need to let him
decide, I think there are huge autonomy
issues in this area, I fould that any
pressure from me would lead my dd in teh
opposite direction. |
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21:14:21 |
SandraMort |
*nod* Oh, I know. I'm waiting
patiently. Just thought maybe there was
some insight that might clue me in to
the thing I'm missing. |
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21:14:25 |
SandraMort |
Thanks anyway. |
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21:14:26 |
sarahjbuckley |
Also, have you gotten onto the EC chat
lists about it? |
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21:14:33 |
SandraMort |
Yeah, they haven't come up with much
useful. |
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21:14:51 |
SandraMort |
I'm on the big EC list, as well as the
regional one. |
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21:14:52 |
sarahjbuckley |
Is his development on track in other
areas? |
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21:15:03 |
SandraMort |
No, he's \delayed\" (if you believe in
such things(" |
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21:15:22 |
SandraMort |
He talks very little, but communicates
well, as my older daughter did. Walked
late also. |
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21:15:46 |
sarahjbuckley |
Maybe it is a bit part of that slowness
for him, you may need to be patient, as
I can see you have been, he is lucky to
have you as his mama! |
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21:16:10 |
SandraMort |
Heh. He's my third kid. I got all the
panicking about delays over with my
first. :) |
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21:16:20 |
SandraMort |
Thank you \ |
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21:16:31 |
sarahjbuckley |
Good on you, and blessings |
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21:16:43 |
SandraMort |
You as well |
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21:17:22 |
sarahjbuckley |
Next question, Tina? |
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21:17:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
anyone else have a question for sarah?
just type a single question mark to let
me know |
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21:17:57 |
SandraMort |
? |
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21:17:58 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
. |
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21:18:06 |
SandraMort |
Kam, by all means, you go first |
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21:18:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
kameron was that supposed to be a
question mark? LOL |
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21:18:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
woops |
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21:18:40 |
SandraMort |
Kam? Had a question? |
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21:18:51 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
no.. i was booted |
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21:19:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
oh ok, sandra...another question? |
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21:19:08 |
SandraMort |
Oh, ok. I saw a . and thougt it might
have been a ? by accident |
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21:19:16 |
SandraMort |
Sure, if there's time :) |
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21:19:27 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
o wait.. im just curious on boys and
PT'ing? what age is best? |
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21:19:48 |
sarahjbuckley |
Sorry Sandra, not sure what PTing is? |
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21:19:51 |
SandraMort |
Potty training |
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21:19:56 |
SandraMort |
I recommend before college ;) |
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21:20:02 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
lol |
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21:20:27 |
SandraMort |
Well... unless it's a community
college. I don't wanna go travelling to
change diapers or nurse my kids. |
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21:20:31 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
my son is 2.5 and doesn't seem into it |
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21:20:55 |
Webmama_Tina |
that was weird....i got booted too |
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21:20:56 |
sarahjbuckley |
Well, I think its up to the individual
child, some are ready early, just pick
it up by watching and copying, some are
more sensitive around the issues, liek
your son maybe |
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21:21:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
that rarely happens to me, hm, wonder if
the system is having issues tonite |
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21:21:29 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
tina, i was getting the boot all night
lastnight |
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21:21:44 |
Webmama_Tina |
hm, weird |
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21:21:52 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
his dr says try around 3, cuz boys are
harder.. is that true? |
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21:22:38 |
sarahjbuckley |
I think that wearing no pants helsp too,
good to get toddlres interested then see
how it goes. It's awhole new issue I
think because of disposables keeping
kids so dry, they aren't getting those
signals... |
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21:23:45 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
we bought pull ups and he refuses to
wear them, and we put him on the potty
and he hates that .. but i caught him
naked the other day after taking off his
poopy diaper and he was wiping himself |
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21:24:01 |
sarahjbuckley |
I think between 2 and 3 is good, some
children are intersted before that. EC
ios good because we follow our
children's instincts to eliminate and
don't ignore them, the hard things is
foir teh child to get that reconnection
with conventional toilet traini |
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21:24:03 |
SandraMort |
The range of normal is so wide, it's
amazing. Even within one family, my
daugter was in (cloth!) diapers until 4,
and my first son started asking to use
the toilet at a year old. |
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21:24:55 |
sarahjbuckley |
Yes, I agree Sandra, I think it's quite
adiscipline as a parent to allow and
support but not pressure children to PT |
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21:25:00 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
so I guess Ill wait till he is more into
it |
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21:25:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
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21:25:34 |
sarahjbuckley |
I'd also suggest talking about it in teh
course of family life, if you are
comfortable, letting him see you or
other family members in the toilet |
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21:25:56 |
sarahjbuckley |
My dd was fascinated by her older sister
on teh toilet! |
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21:26:13 |
sarahjbuckley |
How old is your son Kam? |
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21:26:55 |
sarahjbuckley |
Also, can you give him diaper-free time
so he can tune into his body functions? |
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21:27:17 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
2.5 |
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21:27:50 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
sarah, he is always running around
naked.. i ask if he wants to get on the
toilet and he says no |
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21:28:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
i think balancingact has a question for
you sarah |
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21:28:29 |
Webmama_Tina |
when you're done with kameron, i mean :) |
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21:28:34 |
sarahjbuckley |
That;s great Kam, could you leave afew
potties around (we hasd 3!) and see if
he is interested spontaneously? |
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21:28:45 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: Kameron-N-Madelyn
...upcoming chatters: balancingact |
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21:29:22 |
sarahjbuckley |
OK Tina, hope that is helpful Kam, I
wouldn't be worried, you are doing well! |
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21:29:23 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
Oh, i guess I could do that.. have a
few.. not just one |
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21:29:30 |
Kameron-N-Madelyn |
ok thanks |
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21:29:36 |
sarahjbuckley |
Thanks Kam |
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21:29:38 |
rainbowthespian |
Hello! |
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21:29:52 |
Webmama_Tina |
balancingact, did you have a question
for sarah? |
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21:30:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
hi rainbow! glad you joined us! |
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21:30:57 |
balancingact |
First of all...THANK YOU SJB for your
wonderful book and articles, my ?
concerns the physiology of the placenta
seperating from the uterine wall, a
nurse told me that there is a risk of
the blood flowing back in from baby if
they do not clamp right away? |
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21:31:06 |
sarahjbuckley |
Balancing act, love it! isn't parenting
such a balancing act, and we are always
having to adjust our balance, sometimes
lose it and go splat, well I do anyway! |
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21:31:55 |
sarahjbuckley |
Do you mean blood flowing to teh mother
or more blood to the baby? |
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21:32:05 |
balancingact |
from the baby back into the mother |
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21:32:47 |
sarahjbuckley |
Ok, that's called a feto-maternal
hemorrhage and is a problem for moms
with Rh Neg blood and Ph positive baby,
is this what you mean? |
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21:33:53 |
amberharness83 |
hello |
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21:33:54 |
balancingact |
well, I am not RH neg, I was discussing
my choice of delayed cord clamping with
a nurse and she was just horrified
saying that the risk was that the blood
would flow back into the placenta, I
really didn't get much more from her
than that |
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21:34:38 |
sarahjbuckley |
OK, well, when the cord is clamped
early, the baby misses out on blood that
flows from the palcenta to the baby in
the minutes after birth... |
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21:34:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
hi amber |
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21:34:54 |
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21:35:32 |
balancingact |
yes that is what I understood, is there
a chance then that the blood will return
to the placenta or will the cord just
stop when the baby has what he needs? |
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21:35:39 |
sarahjbuckley |
It's called a placental transfusion,
usually around 100 ml, and fills the
baby's blood volume up, just as Nature
wants, so that all the newly working
organs have enough blood... |
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21:36:52 |
sarahjbuckley |
There has been concern that the baby
will get 'too much blood' with delayed
clamping, but that is not the case, the
baby needs this blood which has
nutritive and important thin gs like red
blood cells to carry oxygen and iron... |
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21:37:32 |
sarahjbuckley |
In fact, there is as much iron as in 100
litres/gallons of breast milk, and it
prevents anemia for the baby for at
least 6 months |
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21:38:26 |
sarahjbuckley |
Also, I have never seen any other animal
use a cord clamp,it's not how Mother
nature has designed humans either :) |
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21:38:36 |
SandraMort |
If you don't mind me interjecting, I was
amazed to learn that you can still
collect cord blood (though not as much)
after the cord stops pulsing. |
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21:38:44 |
SandraMort |
I had thought you couldn't until my
third baby |
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21:38:50 |
balancingact |
that is awsome, wish the hospitals would
GET IT! |
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21:38:52 |
sarahjbuckley |
Doe sthis make sense to you? There is
more info here
http://www.mothering.com/sections/experts/buckley-archive3.html#cutcord |
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21:39:07 |
sarahjbuckley |
and here |
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21:39:10 |
sarahjbuckley |
http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/articles/leaving-well-alone.htm |
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21:39:32 |
sarahjbuckley |
Also check out this website dedicated to
cord clamping www.cordclamp.com |
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21:40:17 |
sarahjbuckley |
One of my writing tasks this year is to
write about this for Mothering, because
it also explains why cord bloord blood
banking can be harmful, it means ntaking
this 100 ml of blood |
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21:40:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
oh my! i never knew that! |
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21:40:55 |
sarahjbuckley |
That the baby needs, and storing it away
with very little chance of it being
used. |
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21:41:07 |
Webmama_Tina |
i considered doing that banking, but it
was so expensive |
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21:41:09 |
amberharness83 |
what do they use it for? |
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21:42:25 |
SandraMort |
Sarah - Ar eyou saying cord blood
banking is harmful, or are you saying
that premature cutting of the cord is?
If you're not planning to lotus birth,
and it's stopped pulsing already, what
harm is there? |
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21:42:30 |
sarahjbuckley |
10 ml of newborn blood is equivalent to
1.5 to 2 litres, I think the same in
gallons, of adult blood. You pay money
for storage in case your child needs it
because of rarer conditions such as some
forms of leukemia or more often |
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21:43:43 |
sarahjbuckley |
Basically the problem is, to get a good
amount of blood, they need to clamp the
cord early, within 30 secs usuallu/. |
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21:44:07 |
SandraMort |
Yes, I was told that there would be
significantly less, but that it was
still an option for me. |
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21:44:48 |
sarahjbuckley |
Which means the blood that the baby
should get (placental transfusion) is
banked instead. Smaller amounts have
fewer stem cells, and may not be anough
to be sueful later on |
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21:45:06 |
amberharness83 |
? |
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21:45:06 |
sarahjbuckley |
Sorry about my typos! |
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21:45:09 |
SandraMort |
*nod* But what harm is there in trying? |
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21:45:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: sandramort....upcoming
chatter: amberharness83 |
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21:45:52 |
balancingact |
thank you Sarah, I hand out your
articles to any and all pregnant mamas I
come across, thanks for having the
courage to speak the TRUTH about birth
and for the wonderful info on such
topics. |
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21:45:55 |
sarahjbuckley |
Well, no problem if you want to pay the
money, with low chance of it being
useful to that child |
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21:46:07 |
SandraMort |
:) |
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21:46:13 |
sarahjbuckley |
Thanks Balancing act! |
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21:47:12 |
sarahjbuckley |
So basically if you want to consider
this, I would suggest not allowing
clamping under 3 minutes after birth so
the baby gets all they need. Personally
I also think its best (for mom as well)
to not clamp at all until teh placenta
is delivered |
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21:47:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: sandramort....upcoming
chatter: amberharness83, Webmama_Tina |
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21:48:17 |
SandraMort |
Oh, I can wait, tina, until other
people have time to ask their first
question :) I won't hog all of Sarah's
time. |
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21:48:26 |
sarahjbuckley |
which makes it very hard to get enough
blood. Also, I have to add that there is
no guarantee that blood can vbe stored
for long periods, I think 15 years is
the max so far, so it's use for that
child as an adult is also in doubt. |
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21:48:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok amber, you're up! |
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21:48:49 |
sarahjbuckley |
Better stop now! Watch for that article
late 07! |
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21:48:54 |
SandraMort |
I was planning to donate it anwyay, so
storage wouldn't have mattered but we
ended up with a precipitous UC |
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21:48:55 |
amberharness83 |
can we ask something besides the cord? |
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21:49:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter:
amberharness83....upcoming chatter:
Webmama_Tina |
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21:49:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes amber |
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21:49:08 |
sarahjbuckley |
Sure Amber |
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21:50:00 |
amberharness83 |
ok Sarah i know you have lots of
information on birth so i am trying to
concieve please help with ideas or a
website with support |
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21:50:15 |
amberharness83 |
i have heard so many things |
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21:50:36 |
sarahjbuckley |
Ok, look here Amber, there are afew
question where I have given
preconception advice and links |
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21:50:50 |
sarahjbuckley |
http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/articles/leaving-well-alone.htm |
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21:51:03 |
sarahjbuckley |
Especially 'trying to concieve at 44'
answer |
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21:51:19 |
amberharness83 |
thank you well i dont know why i cant i
am 24 |
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21:51:32 |
amberharness83 |
my husband is getting older does that
matter? |
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21:52:01 |
sarahjbuckley |
I like the foresight material, look up
their website, it;s about getting into
as good physical shape as possible, for
both partners before conception. It's a
wonderful investment in the child's
lifelong health |
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21:52:13 |
sarahjbuckley |
How long have you been TTC? |
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21:52:37 |
amberharness83 |
a year now i have 3 wonderful boys |
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21:52:53 |
sarahjbuckley |
Any problems with previous conception? |
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21:53:08 |
amberharness83 |
no |
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21:53:39 |
amberharness83 |
thats what i mean what could be wrong
with me? i was on depo a year ago |
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21:53:58 |
sarahjbuckley |
Did you stop depot 12 montsh ago? |
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21:54:01 |
amberharness83 |
could that do something? |
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21:54:11 |
amberharness83 |
yes |
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21:54:26 |
sarahjbuckley |
Yes, it can delay the return of
fertility. |
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21:54:44 |
sarahjbuckley |
I'd look at these books |
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21:54:52 |
sarahjbuckley |
Taking charge of your fertility |
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21:55:01 |
sarahjbuckley |
by Toni Weschler |
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21:55:19 |
sarahjbuckley |
Healthy parents, better babies by
Francesca Naish and Jan Roberts |
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21:55:30 |
amberharness83 |
also does stress effect this? |
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21:55:52 |
sarahjbuckley |
and Consciuos conception by Jeannine
Parvati Baker which looks at spiritual
dimensions . |
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21:56:05 |
sarahjbuckley |
Definitely stress can affect fertlity
too |
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21:56:11 |
SandraMort |
Oooh, i haven't read that one. What
faith/religious perspective, Sarah? |
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21:56:29 |
amberharness83 |
thank you so much for your information
and time |
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21:56:58 |
sarahjbuckley |
She has a yogic perspective mostly. See
www.freestone.org anmd
www.birthkeeper.com |
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21:57:08 |
sarahjbuckley |
It's a pleasure Amber :) |
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21:57:29 |
sarahjbuckley |
Another question Tina? |
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21:57:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
oh my question was next. :) |
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21:58:03 |
sarahjbuckley |
Great :) |
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21:58:05 |
amberharness83 |
lol |
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21:58:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
i have 2 children that were born
c-section |
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21:58:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
and didn't get the benefit of their cord
blood, i'm sure |
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21:58:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
since they cut it immediately i believe |
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21:59:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
i know that its best to let them get
that but i just wonder what sort of
effects, if any, that lack of that cord
blood would have on them? |
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21:59:33 |
sarahjbuckley |
Yes, c-section babies are esp likely to
miss the placental transfusion because
they cut teh cord immediately and also
because teh baby is higher than the
mother so blood can drain back |
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22:00:27 |
sarahjbuckley |
Well, most babies can survive and thrive
without it, the risks to ahealthy baby
are around low iron stores in infancy
which is not ideal for development, I
have to say that most of us didn't get
our placental trabsfusion,. |
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22:00:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
my daughter is now 6yrs old and my son
is 19mos |
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22:00:51 |
amberharness83 |
i am sorry to but in but what do i click
on in your site? |
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22:00:52 |
sarahjbuckley |
Are they healthy Tina? |
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22:01:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
oh didn't think of that...yes we were
probably all born very medically i'm
sure |
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22:01:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes they are very healthy |
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22:01:21 |
sarahjbuckley |
Amber- under articles, Leaving well
alone or this link |
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22:01:24 |
sarahjbuckley |
http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/articles/leaving-well-alone.htm |
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22:01:32 |
amberharness83 |
sorry thank you |
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22:01:44 |
my2boys00-03 |
hi |
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22:01:46 |
Webmama_Tina |
and haven't had anything much to speak
of ever...other than my daughter spent
her first week in the hospital on iv
antibiotics due to bacteria showing up
on her blood culture |
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22:02:14 |
sarahjbuckley |
I would say that they are very unlikely
to have had sequellae from it Tina. |
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22:02:18 |
my2boys00-03 |
may i ask what sponsored chat is this |
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22:02:30 |
Webmama_Tina |
my2 this is a mothering magazine
sponsored chat :) |
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22:02:40 |
Webmama_Tina |
we're just wrapping up actually |
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22:02:42 |
my2boys00-03 |
any spefic chat |
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22:02:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
http://mothering.com/interactive/live_chat/live-chat.html |
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22:03:02 |
my2boys00-03 |
ty |
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22:03:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
you can read the description there :) |
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22:03:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
sure thing! |
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22:03:17 |
Webmama_Tina |
sequellae, sarah? |
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22:03:23 |
SandraMort |
Oh, i hope so |
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22:03:23 |
Webmama_Tina |
not a word i've ever heard :) |
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22:03:26 |
SandraMort |
this has been the best one yet. |
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22:03:41 |
SandraMort |
IMNSHO. |
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22:03:49 |
sarahjbuckley |
Sorry, my US spell check always rejects
it too, I mean long-term consequences |
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22:03:59 |
Webmama_Tina |
ahh ok |
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22:04:07 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok good to know |
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22:04:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
when the topic comes up i often wonder |
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22:04:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
does anyone have a last question for
sarah? |
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22:04:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
we are basically out of time |
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22:04:34 |
SandraMort |
A quick one? |
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22:04:39 |
Webmama_Tina |
just wanted to see if there was a quick
last one |
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22:04:42 |
SandraMort |
Mememe |
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22:04:43 |
SandraMort |
LOL |
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22:04:43 |
sarahjbuckley |
I do have some suggestions in my book
for cesarean babies , you can actually
leave teh cord unclamped and let the
placenta drain into the baby like a
transfusion bag! |
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22:04:46 |
Webmama_Tina |
sure sandra, go for it :) |
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22:04:53 |
SandraMort |
COOL! I ddin't know that |
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22:05:02 |
Webmama_Tina |
wish i had known that before :( |
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22:05:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
ah well, not planning on having anymore |
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22:05:19 |
sarahjbuckley |
If you have another cs baby Tina, email
me and ask me :) |
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22:05:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
god i hope not |
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22:05:38 |
sarahjbuckley |
OK Tina! |
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22:05:47 |
Webmama_Tina |
if i had another baby, which i hope
not....i would hope to try to do it
naturally one last time! :) |
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22:05:57 |
SandraMort |
I've got degenerative disc disease.
L5S1 is gone, all gone. L4L5 is
herniated and L3L4 and L2L3 are
bulging. Do you know where I could
find, if there is anything, information
on how this affects pregnancy and birth,
because it has seemed to strongly aff |
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22:06:00 |
my2boys00-03 |
sarah may i ask why would you |
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22:06:12 |
balancingact |
Im a home vbacr after 2 c-sec...it can
be done! |
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22:06:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
*sigh* but its a very long, complicated
sad story i won't go into now....we need
to wrap this up |
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22:06:14 |
SandraMort |
affect both of them... IS there anything
available to help me decide if I should
ttc or not? |
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22:06:43 |
sarahjbuckley |
Gosh Sandra, that must be tricky for you
in daily life? |
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22:06:47 |
SandraMort |
Yes :( |
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22:06:47 |
Webmama_Tina |
balancingact, that's good to hear! |
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22:07:23 |
SandraMort |
But I believe that there's nerve damage
that has compromised communication
to/from the uterus |
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22:07:37 |
SandraMort |
Which is the relevant piece |
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22:08:02 |
SandraMort |
None of my hcp have any information for
me, though |
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22:08:03 |
sarahjbuckley |
I imagine you might need alot of support
to carry your babies, and to find good
positions for birth. If you think you
copuld get through the pregnancy with
it, I would recommend The Pink Kit to
help you find how to sue your body best
for birth |
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22:08:08 |
SandraMort |
*nod* |
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22:08:23 |
SandraMort |
I've always managed to birth without
problems |
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22:08:27 |
SandraMort |
My concern is more going into labor |
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22:08:47 |
sarahjbuckley |
Have you had problems with this? |
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22:09:19 |
SandraMort |
Prior to the injury, I had a 38 week
baby. After, I had two \natural
inductions\" at 42 and 42+3 (long story
why)" |
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22:09:37 |
sarahjbuckley |
Initiation of labour is controlled by
the baby and your uterus and I don't
imagine it woudl be affected except if
your doctors or carers got nervous |
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22:09:40 |
SandraMort |
Both had some signs of being a bit
postdates |
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22:09:59 |
sarahjbuckley |
Does this run in your family? |
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22:10:05 |
SandraMort |
Npoe |
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22:10:08 |
sarahjbuckley |
I mean postdates? |
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22:10:11 |
SandraMort |
Nope |
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22:10:36 |
SandraMort |
I wouldn't blink if it did -- I have a
friend whose whole family goes to 44+ |
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22:10:50 |
SandraMort |
#2 I was pushed to evict |
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22:11:13 |
SandraMort |
#3 was semi-UC but I was in a bad
situation that was made much worse by
the back injury... it was a long
complicated story |
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22:11:29 |
sarahjbuckley |
Well, there are always a certain number
of late babies, and personally my
opinion is that I don't think your back
problems would cause late babies, I'd
focus on being in good health so that
your baby's placenta imbeds in ahealthy
way |
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22:11:30 |
SandraMort |
I don't know how long I'd have gonr |
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22:11:41 |
SandraMort |
*nod* That's reassuring. |
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22:11:43 |
SandraMort |
:) |
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22:11:45 |
SandraMort |
Thank you. |
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22:11:54 |
SandraMort |
I was pretty healthy, all things
considered. |
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22:11:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok i think that about does it then,
mamas! |
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22:12:01 |
SandraMort |
And my third was a scrawny 11 pounder ;) |
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22:12:02 |
Webmama_Tina |
our time is up and then some! :) |
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22:12:07 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol sandra |
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22:12:26 |
sarahjbuckley |
so that it can go the distance and
nourish a baby who goes postdates. Might
be good to find a skilled midwife for
advice too, if you havent; already |
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22:12:32 |
SandraMort |
*grin* Thank you for your time, Sarah
and I look forward to your next chat. |
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22:12:36 |
eldadeedlit |
yeah he's a peanut :p |
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22:12:46 |
SandraMort |
Well, he's cute, just like his cousins. |
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22:12:51 |
eldadeedlit |
true that |
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22:12:58 |
sarahjbuckley |
Thanks Sandra! |
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22:13:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
thank you sarah! for a wonderfully
informative chat! |
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22:13:37 |
sarahjbuckley |
It's a pleasure, and thanks everyone for
participating :) |
